Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Firing Nagy accomplishes virtually nothing if he isn't replaced by actual new blood. This offense is Andy's and until he's willing to hire someone that will question him, it's not gonna change.
He’s poison dude. Anyone else would literally be an instant improvement.
Getting a guy like Mike Lafleur, Zack Robinson, or Kingsbury would be a home run. Sell them on being the guy after Andy.
The old guard of the NFL is changing with many OC quickly moving up to HC. The game is changing. Our offense hasn’t been good for 2 years. Our defense is not going to get better, it’s going to get worse. Adapt or die. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wannaGOback:
He’s poison dude. Anyone else would literally be an instant improvement.
Getting a guy like Mike Lafleur, Zack Robinson, or Kingsbury would be a home run. Sell them on being the guy after Andy.
The old guard of the NFL is changing with many OC quickly moving up to HC. The game is changing. Our offense hasn’t been good for 2 years. Our defense is not going to get better, it’s going to get worse. Adapt or die.
If they fire Nagy and hire a guy like Pederson, nothing will change. Nagy is not poison. He's a yes man. Like most of the guys here have been. Andy needs a dissenting voice and soon. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
I don't think Robinson fixes anything. If Joe Thuneys slow losses aren't cutting it Robinsons not a huge upgrade. He's a little better against outside speed but you sure wont see the bang for the buck.
And it’s going to be a lot of “buck” for him, especially if his agent knows that KC’s desperate. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.
I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.
It needs to happen
Well good thing you’re not the GM because that would be a retard move in a draft class like this one with no clear cut top 10 guy.
The only potential superstar is Membou at guard, so ya safe to say we won’t be mortgaging our entire future capital to get a guy who could be just as good as the guy available at 31. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Yeah.... people are going to bring up the injury concerns, but that's a deal you gotta make. Put this nightmare away. LTs age well for the most part.
What if he wants a contract 25% larger than Taylor? I'm not giving a guy with his injury history that kind of money. That has the potential to not only fuck up next season but seasons in the future. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Except for Eric Fisher. Done at age 30. Horrible luck for KC at this position.
It’s not necessarily bad luck as much as it’s KC being the victim of their own success. They haven’t drafted lower than 28 in the Mahomes era. Cornerstone LTs are always drafted before them unless someone hits a gold mine later. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
If they fire Nagy and hire a guy like Pederson, nothing will change. Nagy is not poison. He's a yes man. Like most of the guys here have been. Andy needs a dissenting voice and soon.
Was Beinemy a yes man?
Why has it gone from the #1 offense for 5 years straight to outside of the top 20.
You realize Nagy track record before KC is identical to what’s happening now. The scientific evidence is in my side, but it seems the general consensus is adamantly different.
Like what evidence do all of you people have for Nagy having net zero impact on play calls, designs, and game plans? What’s your source? [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
What if he wants a contract 25% larger than Taylor? I'm not giving a guy with his injury history that kind of money. That has the potential to not only **** up next season but seasons in the future.
Baltimore was able to get Stanley to take a paycut recently, which is interesting. I'm kind of expecting him to stay in Baltimore on a home town discount, similar to the paycut he already agreed to. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Yeah.... people are going to bring up the injury concerns, but that's a deal you gotta make. Put this nightmare away. LTs age well for the most part.
I don’t know. He didn’t play a full season once in this last big contract until the final year.
You’re going to throw a lot of money into a guy who maybe plays half the year and your right back where you started.
I agree talent wise it’s a no brainier. It’s just hard to trust him [Reply]
Originally Posted by wannaGOback:
Was Beinemy a yes man?
Why has it gone from the #1 offense for 5 years straight to outside of the top 20.
You realize Nagy track record before KC is identical to what’s happening now. The scientific evidence is in my side, but it seems the general consensus is adamantly different.
Like what evidence do all of you people have for Nagy having net zero impact on play calls, designs, and game plans? What’s your source?
The HOF greatest TE of all time got old and the HOF top 10 all time WR in his prime got traded. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
What if he wants a contract 25% larger than Taylor? I'm not giving a guy with his injury history that kind of money. That has the potential to not only fuck up next season but seasons in the future.
My question is what better options are there? Humphries with an offseason? Or hope Kingsley year two is significantly better than rookie Kingsley? [Reply]
They're all gonna have big red warts unless you luck into a great pick or Suamataia miraculously becomes good.
Stanley has had health issues, Cam Robinson can get beat badly in a way that might be a disaster, Humphries is unproven. You're just not in a great spot to check all the boxes but what I do know is Mahomes would trust Stanley with his life back there. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
The HOF greatest TE of all time got old and the HOF top 10 all time WR in his prime got traded.
Hey. Guess what. Tyreek wasn’t on the team in 2022. Still the the number one offense in YPP. WITH the highest drop percentage in the entire NFL and a crackhead as WR1.
We are now the 22nd best offense in the league and played like it on Sunday.