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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Bambi 08:41 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
The other Big 12 schools don't like money now?

BTN has proven that it is much more lucrative overall to pool tier 2 or 3 rights together and market them as a package to broadcasters, rather than having each school try to market their own tier 3 rights.

This is why the PAC and SEC are following in their footsteps, and it is why the Big 12 will continue to fall behind the pack in terms of overall conference TV revenue.
The Big 12 has like half of the alumni base around the country as the Big10 does.

Demand for a Big 12 network just isn't there.

Big money comes from individual schools...Texas, Kansas Basketball etc.

Everyone is free to start their own and make what they want with 3rd tier money.

Obviously the content is what is to be monitored, most notably high school sports highlights.
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Frazod 08:56 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy:
Every time I think you have reached the threshold of your ignorance, you say something to push the threshold.

Sometimes I think you love Texas more than Texas fans, you go down on them enough.
Well, since the Yankmees got greased last night, fanboy's obviously looking for a new super team bandwagon to hop on.
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KChiefs1 09:07 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
The SEC is going to a B1G-style network. It's a license to print money.
This would double what the B1G makes!
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vailpass 09:10 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
This would double what the B1G makes!
Easy there. While it is true that many SEC households have more than 1 television it must also be taken into account that in 96% of those households one of those televisions does not work and is sitting in the front yard supporting the television that does work ifn you hold the beer can rabbit ears just right.
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Bambi 09:17 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
Well, since the Yankmees got greased last night, fanboy's obviously looking for a new super team bandwagon to hop on.
I'm a Royals fan you douche.

Not one of convenient Chiefs/Cardinals fans like you.

We've discussed this before.
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vailpass 09:19 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
I'm a Royals fan you douche.

Not one of convenient Chiefs/Cardinals fans like you.

We've discussed this before.
It's "convenience" Wickeddumb.
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Frazod 09:19 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
I'm a Royals fan you douche.

Not one of convenient Chiefs/Cardinals fans like you.

We've discussed this before.
Says the Yankmees season ticket holder who posted a picture of Texas' championship banners yesterday.

Eat shit, clown.
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vailpass 09:20 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
Says the Yankmees season ticket holder who posted a picture of Texas' championship banners yesterday.

Eat shit, clown.
WTF? Is this true? :-)
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Frazod 09:41 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by vailpass:
WTF? Is this true? :-)
You've never caught his "I live in New York, the rest of you suck" act? It's great. He'll really get on a roll, and then it seems like somebody whispers in his ear "Hey idiot, you're on a Chiefs board and you're from Kansas" and then he backpedals away as fast as he can.

And the Texas picture is buried in this pile of shit somewhere. He's been on a Texas kick lately - keeps mentioning them and KU together as if they're somehow on equal footing.

Apparently the Longhorns don't make a move without first seeking approval from their overlords in Lawrence. :-)
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vailpass 09:48 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
You've never caught his "I live in New York, the rest of you suck" act? It's great. He'll really get on a roll, and then it seems like somebody whispers in his ear "Hey idiot, you're on a Chiefs board and you're from Kansas" and then he backpedals away as fast as he can.

And the Texas picture is buried in this pile of shit somewhere. He's been on a Texas kick lately - keeps mentioning them and KU together as if they're somehow on equal footing.

Apparently the Longhorns don't make a move without first seeking approval from their overlords in Lawrence. :-)
:-)


I've seen his attempt at a New Yorker attitude, at which he fails.
I've seen his one-trick pony of trying to make it seem like college hoops has anywhere near the same pull as college football.

But the Texas picture is hilarious news to me as is the UT equation. ****ing tool.
Instead of Stockholm Syndrome perhaps WickedDumb has Austin Syndrome.


I know it is your moral obligation as an MU Tiger to deplore KU but I have respect for KU and don't hold WickedDumb against them.
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Pants 09:49 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
You've never caught his "I live in New York, the rest of you suck" act? It's great. He'll really get on a roll, and then it seems like somebody whispers in his ear "Hey idiot, you're on a Chiefs board and you're from Kansas" and then he backpedals away as fast as he can.

And the Texas picture is buried in this pile of shit somewhere. He's been on a Texas kick lately - keeps mentioning them and KU together as if they're somehow on equal footing.

Apparently the Longhorns don't make a move without first seeking approval from their overlords in Lawrence. :-)
Are you talking about the picture of the basketball banners? I think that was just his attempt to show that Texas does care about basketball which was relevant to the argument at the time. I'm not sure that it proved him right, but I don't think it was to show solidarity between Texas and KU like you're implying.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - I don't mind Texas making more money than Kansas. It doesn't mean I'm chugging Texas cock or anything, I'm just being a realist.
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Saulbadguy 09:55 AM 10-07-2011
Is it DONE?

Originally Posted by :
cbsdollarbill Bill Jones
Pat Jones tells @bbjsports on @sportsanimal his SEC sources say Mizzou to SEC a "done deal" by end of day

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Frazod 09:56 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
Are you talking about the picture of the basketball banners? I think that was just his attempt to show that Texas does care about basketball which was relevant to the argument at the time. I'm not sure that it proved him right, but I don't think it was to show solidarity between Texas and KU like you're implying.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - I don't mind Texas making more money than Kansas. It doesn't mean I'm chugging Texas cock or anything, I'm just being a realist.
Nobody's saying that you are. Apparently, that's Wickedson's job.
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vailpass 09:57 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
Is it DONE?
If so I wish MU the best but man that just doesn't seem like a good fit culturally.
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kchero 09:59 AM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by vailpass:
If so I wish MU the best but man that just doesn't seem like a good fit culturally.
Agreed, Im a Mizzou fan and I may be in the minority here, but I would rather stay in the Big XII. With that being said, I am not convinced about the stability of this conference. Therefore, even though I feel we are a much better fit in the Big XII I cannot disagree with the decision to move to the SEC.
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