Originally Posted by RealSNR:
If there are that many bad teams sticking by their young QBs with Lawrence, Fields, and Lance on the board, the Broncos could just trade up, too. Which they might. They might pay out the ass, but they'd still get what they want/need.
I dunno. I guess I really don't care about all these teams who could suck for these QBs. We have the best QB in the NFL, and seriously... I doubt Lawrence is going to be as good as Mahomes. Prime Andrew Luck wasn't as good as Mahomes, either. We've had "can't miss" guys come and go in the draft process. Many of them end up being very very good. Some are busts.
But when you have the best and will continue to have the best for seasons to come, you don't worry about other good QBs in the league. Somebody has to draft these players. It might be the Donks. Or the Raiders. Or the shitbag "Whoops we sucked so hard we got the #1 overall pick!" Colts. This kind of thing got me worried in the before time, but not anymore.
Let the Donks suck for Lawrence. I don't care. We're still gonna piss pound them as long as we have Mahomes. And hell... just look at last year- for that matter we'll still piss pound them as long as we have Matt Moore.
The only thing that concerns me there is the long-term outlook of the divisions and the fact that only 1 team gets a bye now.
The Patriots dominated because their division was dog-shit for 15-20 years and they just cleaned up. They got that bye, they got HFA and they sailed because of it. When they didn't have a bye and/or HFA, they struggled significantly more.
Well the AFC North with an aging Ben, a rudderless Browns team and the Bengals (need I say more?) is clearly on track to be the new AFC East. And if Herbert and an even credible Fields/Lance kind of QB show up in Denver, you have 2 teams w/ quarterbacks who can catch fire in any given week and hang the one L on you that costs you a bye.
When Carr, mediocre as he is, is the worst QB in your division, that's a tough division. It's not tough for a team with Mahomes to win it, but it's tough for that team to dominate it in the fashion the Ravens will be able to do in the North after Ben retires/is washed.
I don't think it fundamentally alters the regular season greatly, but it changes how clean the Chiefs can get into the playoffs and how easy they can make their route to another SB for the next decade or so. It could mean 2-3-4 more seasons over the next 10 without a bye and without HFA in the AFCCG.
I'm not concerned w/ winning 8 more AFC West titles - I wanna figure out how to win 5 more Lombardi's and shut the fucking Patriot honks up.
Dynamic young QBs all over the division will interfere with that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
That’s not what you should be worrying about. If the Broncos get in the top 3, what stops Lawrence from pulling and Elway/Eli?
Keep in mind Elway and Manning have major influence. Playing for them or the Jets?
I could see that happen
I’m not going to worry about something that is extremely rare.
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I’m not going to worry about something that is extremely rare.
Lawrence isn’t a spoiled bitch like Eli.
And the QB position is just too damn important.
I can't see any way a team in the league allows itself to be power played like that in the modern NFL.
And ultimately it took Elways threat to sign with the Yankees and forego the NFL to get any traction on his demands.
It's not impossible I don't suppose, but I'm not gonna give it a moment's concern. Besides, why would any QB choose DENVER of all places to force a power play to? Oh fun, let's force my way to a cold-weather environment in the division w/ the baddest motherfucker alive! What could possibly go wrong? [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
And the QB position is just too damn important.
I can't see any way a team in the league allows itself to be power played like that in the modern NFL.
And ultimately it took Elways threat to sign with the Yankees and forego the NFL to get any traction on his demands.
It's not impossible I don't suppose, but I'm not gonna give it a moment's concern. Besides, why would any QB choose DENVER of all places to force a power play to? Oh fun, let's force my way to a cold-weather environment in the division w/ the baddest motherfucker alive! What could possibly go wrong?
Originally Posted by lcarus:
Yep Barkley has torn ACL and is out for season. It's pretty likely either the Giants or Jets will get the #1 pick.
This is true, but the Giants also play the Redskins twice. I wouldn’t be completely shocked to see them steal one against the Cowboys/Eagles either. That division is just awful right now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The only thing that concerns me there is the long-term outlook of the divisions and the fact that only 1 team gets a bye now.
The Patriots dominated because their division was dog-shit for 15-20 years and they just cleaned up. They got that bye, they got HFA and they sailed because of it. When they didn't have a bye and/or HFA, they struggled significantly more.
Well the AFC North with an aging Ben, a rudderless Browns team and the Bengals (need I say more?) is clearly on track to be the new AFC East. And if Herbert and an even credible Fields/Lance kind of QB show up in Denver, you have 2 teams w/ quarterbacks who can catch fire in any given week and hang the one L on you that costs you a bye.
When Carr, mediocre as he is, is the worst QB in your division, that's a tough division. It's not tough for a team with Mahomes to win it, but it's tough for that team to dominate it in the fashion the Ravens will be able to do in the North after Ben retires/is washed.
I don't think it fundamentally alters the regular season greatly, but it changes how clean the Chiefs can get into the playoffs and how easy they can make their route to another SB for the next decade or so. It could mean 2-3-4 more seasons over the next 10 without a bye and without HFA in the AFCCG.
I'm not concerned w/ winning 8 more AFC West titles - I wanna figure out how to win 5 more Lombardi's and shut the ****ing Patriot honks up.
Dynamic young QBs all over the division will interfere with that.
Sure. And I apologize, because I sound a lot like O.Shitty right now, but the Donks tanking during the year of Lawrence is something we can't control. And as Andy Reid predicted and foresaw, the QB talent coming out of college has greatly improved. More and more teams are drafting young QBs and subsequently keeping them because they end up being good players. There are going to be other Trevor Lawrences. And if the Donks don't get one this year, they might get one a few seasons from now.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The only thing that concerns me there is the long-term outlook of the divisions and the fact that only 1 team gets a bye now.
The Patriots dominated because their division was dog-shit for 15-20 years and they just cleaned up. They got that bye, they got HFA and they sailed because of it. When they didn't have a bye and/or HFA, they struggled significantly more.
Well the AFC North with an aging Ben, a rudderless Browns team and the Bengals (need I say more?) is clearly on track to be the new AFC East. And if Herbert and an even credible Fields/Lance kind of QB show up in Denver, you have 2 teams w/ quarterbacks who can catch fire in any given week and hang the one L on you that costs you a bye.
When Carr, mediocre as he is, is the worst QB in your division, that's a tough division. It's not tough for a team with Mahomes to win it, but it's tough for that team to dominate it in the fashion the Ravens will be able to do in the North after Ben retires/is washed.
I don't think it fundamentally alters the regular season greatly, but it changes how clean the Chiefs can get into the playoffs and how easy they can make their route to another SB for the next decade or so. It could mean 2-3-4 more seasons over the next 10 without a bye and without HFA in the AFCCG.
I'm not concerned w/ winning 8 more AFC West titles - I wanna figure out how to win 5 more Lombardi's and shut the ****ing Patriot honks up.
Dynamic young QBs all over the division will interfere with that.
Nice post. Getting the number one seed year after year is going to be tough for any one team regardless of division strength, just too many variables with injuries, refs and bounces. Even the Patriots did not have that luxury. But I trust Mahomes and Reid to be able to win one game on the road in the playoffs. This team has an outstanding road record plus we are always within one score with Mahomes. All it takes is one play to win. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Sure. And I apologize, because I sound a lot like O.Shitty right now, but the Donks tanking during the year of Lawrence is something we can't control. And as Andy Reid predicted and foresaw, the QB talent coming out of college has greatly improved. More and more teams are drafting young QBs and subsequently keeping them because they end up being good players. There are going to be other Trevor Lawrences. And if the Donks don't get one this year, they might get one a few seasons from now.