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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Bambi 02:56 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
:-)

You know you just can't quit us. Stop trying to talk tough.
The only positive thing out of MU staying at this point is use of the Sprint Center.

It's a wonderful feeling to cruise across into MO and leave with a trophy.

From that angle yes, I want Missouri to stay.
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mnchiefsguy 02:57 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by kstater:
vgregorian
Expectation is that Neinas still will visit Columbia at some point
Not sure how to perceive this. Is Mizzou gone, and that is why the trip in cancelled, and is Neinas trying to save a little face by saying he will visit at some point? Or does this mean Mizzou is back in the fold and there is no need for a visit?

Hope it means we are leaving.
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Bambi 02:59 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
Gregorian is the guy that is Mizzou's beat writer for the Post-Dispatch.

And how about YOU get out of here already?
I was simply backing up Kstater's exposing of MU fans who are constantly posting tweets that make it look as if MU is out the door and ignoring the tweets and information that indicate MU is staying.

DeArmond started out neutral on the subject now he only post things that lean towards MU leaving.

It's not journalism..
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eazyb81 03:00 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
The only positive thing out of MU staying at this point is use of the Sprint Center.

It's a wonderful feeling to cruise across into MO and leave with a trophy.

From that angle yes, I want Missouri to stay.
They give out trophies for losing the Border War game?
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Mr. Laz 03:00 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
:-)

You know you just can't quit us. Stop trying to talk tough.
Oh, i could ... in a heart beat. I hear people talk about traditional rivalries and keeping MU and KU together. Fuck that, there isn't any love in this love/hate rivalry.

MU can DIAF for all i care. The only reason i even remotely care whether MU stays in the Big 12 is that their t.v. markets help KU. That's a lot of trailer parks.
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Rams Fan 03:01 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by Laz:
Oh, i could ... in a heart beat. I hear people talk about traditional rivalries and keeping MU and KU together. **** that, there isn't any love in this love/hate rivalry.

MU can DIAF for all i care. The only reason i even remotely care whether MU stays in the Big 12 is that their t.v. markets help KU. That's a lot of trailer parks.
Come at me, bro. Come at me.
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mnchiefsguy 03:02 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
I was simply backing up Kstater's exposing of MU fans who are constantly posting tweets that make it look as if MU is out the door and ignoring the tweets and information that indicate MU is staying.

DeArmond started out neutral on the subject now he only post things that lean towards MU leaving.

It's not journalism..
Kstater posted a tweet that made it look like Mizzou was leaving, then he posted one that indicated the opposite (the rescheduling of the visit by the commish).

I posted a link to a DeArmond article where he voiced no opinion either way, and went out of his way to be neutral, talking about how you have to consider the source of tweets and such when deciding the validity of a news story.
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eazyb81 03:02 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by Laz:
Oh, i could ... in a heart beat. I hear people talk about traditional rivalries and keeping MU and KU together. **** that, there isn't any love in this love/hate rivalry.

MU can DIAF for all i care. The only reason i even remotely care whether MU stays in the Big 12 is that their t.v. markets help KU. That's a lot of trailer parks.
Don't sweat it, you just locked up the Fort Worth market with TCU. Cha-Ching!!!

Locking up Louisville will make the Big Ten quiver.
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mnchiefsguy 03:02 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
Come at me, bro. Come at me.
This will be fun. Rams Fan should take out Wickedson in three, maybe four posts max.
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Rams Fan 03:03 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
Don't sweat it, you just locked up the Fort Worth market with TCU. Cha-Ching!!!
TCU, BYU, Louisville, and WVU are all upgrades over Nebraska, Missouri, aTm and Colorado.
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Rams Fan 03:04 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy:
This will be fun. Rams Fan should take out Wickedson in three, maybe four posts max.
No. I don't feel like getting into an argument.

However, there are some major douches in this thread.
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Mr. Laz 03:04 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
Don't sweat it, you just locked up the Fort Worth market with TCU. Cha-Ching!!!

Locking up Louisville will make the Big Ten quiver.
lol

yea, worthless addition unless it's just a step to adding more.



I hoping to hell KU is looking elsewhere ... i've seen/heard no signs of it though. Little could be asleep at the wheel for all we know. :-)
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Rams Fan 03:05 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by Laz:
lol

yea, worthless addition unless it's just a step to adding more.



I hoping to hell KU is looking elsewhere ... i've seen/heard no signs of it though. Little could be asleep at the wheel for all we know. :-)
Per Stewie, the Big 12 is now better with BYU.
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Mr. Laz 03:06 PM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
Per Stewie, the Big 12 is now better with BYU.
i wasn't aware that BYU had committed.

BYU is a upgrade over A&M
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Bambi 03:07 PM 10-06-2011
Are they going or they staying?

Tim Fitzgerald, "I don't care"
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