Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Mahome only issue is that his "stats" are going to be put in the Wilt Chamberland category one day.
Where people acknowledge but almost dismiss them for xyz reason when talking about the larger stat field.
GOAT = Most SB wins is a horrible isolated way to determine GOAT status
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
This was a question that got circulated around every sports show after Mahomes won his 2nd SB: "Does Mahomes have to match or surpass Brady in SBs to take his title away as the GOAT by the time he's done with his career?"
The very fact the question is even being asked pretty much signals that Brady has already lost, and Mahomes is the better player regardless of how many Super Bowls he has. They won't say it, but it's people going, "Well, there's this superior QB, but just because he doesn't have a horseshoe up his ass and doesn't resort to cheating, he might not win as many SBs, so.... shouldn't there be some way to say he's just ****ing better end of story?"
No objective person can with a straight face, say that Brady played the QB position better than Mahomes. Brady was a winner. He got more our of less every year. Thats admirable and worthy of being in the conversation as a GOAT.
But, as far as skills level goes, no QB has had more natural skill at the position than Mahomes. He gets a couple more SB's, the consensus will be yes, Mahomes is the GOAT. [Reply]
Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven:
I have a friend who is a Brady lover. He concedes that Patrick is great and all, but he's no Brady...not yet. I'm like...dude...Brady won a lot, no doubt, especially SuperBowls. But damn...you have a kid who has absolutely destroyed all Brady's numbers to the same point in their careers...and if you watch the games...come ON man...
...but, for many we will just have to wait for the end of Mahomes' career for everyone to truly wake the fuck up and realize that this man, Mahomes, is beyond a doubt the absolute greatest player in NFL history bar none. What a time to be a fan of the Chiefs...
Brady’s legacy is really the longevity. He was never far and away the best QB in the NFL. For over a decade, he was the 1b to Manning’s 1a. From 2015-2017 while Rodgers was in a bit of a slump was his best claim to fame.
The biggest issue with chasing Brady is that he got old and then just kept winning Super Bowls. Guy won four of them after his 35th birthday. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Brady’s legacy is really the longevity. He was never far and away the best QB in the NFL. For over a decade, he was the 1b to Manning’s 1a. From 2015-2017 while Rodgers was in a bit of a slump was his best claim to fame.
The biggest issue with chasing Brady is that he got old and then just kept winning Super Bowls. Guy won four of them after his 35th birthday.
Pretty much and it's also why I wonder if he used PEDs etc, when guys that were better than him physically fell off a cliff he stayed the same. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Pretty much and it's also why I wonder if he used PEDs etc, when guys that were better than him physically fell off a cliff he stayed the same.
He was NEVER an athletic specimen. Never a big arm, nor fleet afoot. He just literally maxed out the mental part of playing NFL QB and flat outworked everybody. [Reply]
Mahomes just made some casual behind the back perfect flip to first in the Big Slick softball game. You will see highlights of this and it will be amazing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Pretty much and it's also why I wonder if he used PEDs etc, when guys that were better than him physically fell off a cliff he stayed the same.
Brady's final year with NE he played like refried dogshit [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Pretty much and it's also why I wonder if he used PEDs etc, when guys that were better than him physically fell off a cliff he stayed the same.
Manning was allegedly using HGH and had it delivered to his wife.
Low probability that TB12 wasn’t next level juicing. [Reply]
It still amazes me people would say things like "he's 43 and his arm is stronger than it was 5 years ago!" and never see the implications of that. "What he's doing is impossible!" Why yes. Yes it is. [Reply]
Never seen the angle on the last one. Jesus Christ.
Another day at the office for Mahomes with 3 pinpoint throws using different arm angles through traffic to the left, middle & right sides of the field pic.twitter.com/t9MZiKVq36