Originally Posted by Bearcat:
That stuff is so dumb... why would it be a tough night for people who have criticized him for being lazy and not showing up like he apparently did last night? Wouldn't that justify the haters, because they aren't just bitching about someone who isn't good enough, but someone who is just there for a paycheck while making the team around him worse on most nights?
Seriously doubt many or any KU fans WANT him to fail or suck, they WANT him to do what he did last night.
And it's funny that guy has posted exactly the same thing multiple times now, yet only like 2 or 3 times all season.... Dickinson played well, sound the alarms for a haters tweet! :-):-)
Hope he keeps it up so we can set the bar higher than bragging about beating sub-.500 teams.
"Tough night" refers to the people who say he makes the team worse. Which is an objectively awful take. Whether he consistently gives max effort is a different argument, although I'm not sure you could say that about anyone on this team.
Any evidence to support the idea that he makes the team worse most nights? Just a bizarre take.
What we do have is the Cincinnati game he missed in KC last year. And they honest to God looked like a D2 team that day. Zero offense. Not too surprising to those who recognize that removing a double-double machine who draws triple teams will have a negative impact on the team's ability to score. The team that took the court that day would have finished last in the Big 12. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
At this point and this season, we should just sit him on the bench and hope that the NBA scouts dont have enough film to make him a lottery pick. :-)
I think it's too late for that. Last mock draft I saw already had him at 14, and that was around a month ago. [Reply]
Originally Posted by PHOG:
I think it's too late for that. Last mock draft I saw already had him at 14, and that was around a month ago.
We had a potential NBA All-Star on our team and he couldn't get on the floor because of Self playing "his" guy(KJ). This has to be his biggest mistake of his career. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
"Tough night" refers to the people who say he makes the team worse. Which is an objectively awful take. Whether he consistently gives max effort is a different argument, although I'm not sure you could say that about anyone on this team.
Any evidence to support the idea that he makes the team worse most nights? Just a bizarre take.
What we do have is the Cincinnati game he missed in KC last year. And they honest to God looked like a D2 team that day. Zero offense. Not too surprising to those who recognize that removing a double-double machine who draws triple teams will have a negative impact on the team's ability to score. The team that took the court that day would have finished last in the Big 12.
Yeah, it's bizarre to you and KCC because after months of discussion, you guys still can't even state the opposite opinion/argument without obsessing over box scores and making up a bunch of stuff nobody actually believes... except probably BWillie, but he doesn't count. [Reply]
All google results on first page. In fact I cant even find him on any draft site boards right now.
Ok, I don't remember where I saw it, and I'm not going to take the time to look it up. That's great if he doesn't get drafted, and we keep him in the NIL age. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
Yeah, it's bizarre to you and KCC because after months of discussion, you guys still can't even state the opposite opinion/argument without obsessing over box scores and making up a bunch of stuff nobody actually believes... except probably BWillie, but he doesn't count.
Boogie Fland was Arkansas freshman du jour, do it all early this year and the team was not good because everyone else seemed to just take a back seat. After he was injured, the team started playing much better and they resemble a tournament team now because everyone else had to start playing to their potential. It took them a few games, but they came around when guys starting figuring out their roles.
I don't know how comparable this is to Kansas or if the same would apply, but addition by subtraction is a real thing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
We had a potential NBA All-Star on our team and he couldn't get on the floor because of Self playing "his" guy(KJ). This has to be his biggest mistake of his career.
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
What we do have is the Cincinnati game he missed in KC last year. And they honest to God looked like a D2 team that day. Zero offense. Not too surprising to those who recognize that removing a double-double machine who draws triple teams will have a negative impact on the team's ability to score. The team that took the court that day would have finished last in the Big 12.
Why do you think some random game from last year has any correlation to this year? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
Yeah, it's bizarre to you and KCC because after months of discussion, you guys still can't even state the opposite opinion/argument without obsessing over box scores and making up a bunch of stuff nobody actually believes... except probably BWillie, but he doesn't count.
All google results on first page. In fact I cant even find him on any draft site boards right now.
I wonder what it would look like if actual NBA teams with actual paid NBA scouts posted their draft boards for everyone to see because I guarantee that Flory is on all of them at this point. [Reply]
I knew I had seen it somewhere, it was only 10 pages back. :-)
The only other spot I saw was an article saying the Nets at 17, but it didn't show their entire mock, just an article from Feb. 5th saying they might take Bidunga there. And these mocks seem a little off the main stream mocks, but it's early also. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by PHOG:
I knew I had seen it somewhere, it was only 10 pages back. :-)
The only other spot I saw was an article saying the Nets at 17, but it didn't show their entire mock, just an article from Feb. 5th saying they might take Bidunga there. And these mocks seem a little off the main stream mocks, but it's early also. :-)
If Self was playing him 30+ minutes a game, he'd be averaging 10+ rebounds and 4+ blocks a game and he'd clearly be on all of these lists on the internet.
The people NBA teams pay to follow B12 games have already seen more than enough to rank him highly, though, there's no hiding him from them. Only way he's coming back is if he, for some reason, decides to pass up on a guarantee of a multi-million NBA contract to stay at KU for NIL money and that feels incredibly unlikely in this era. [Reply]
