Originally Posted by BWillie:
Any of you guys know a good Touchless car wash in Johnson County? Everyone I've called or go to says they are not touchless.
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Don't be an asshole.
This ****ing place. You can say correct thing after correct thing. But if you're too precise in your language people avoid the subject by bitching about you being pedantic. And if you're too colloquial in your language, people avoid the subject by being pedantic themselves.
I called it the drivetrain because it was a succinct term for the vehicle guidance control and dampening subsystem, that most reasonable people would recognize as referring to what I was in fact referring to.
But you had to be butthurt about the slightest of contradiction.
No you said a piece of steering linkage/ suspension was a part of a drive train. No $2 words change that. Epigrammaticly A ball joint is not a part of the drive train. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
. Marcellus
Imbalanced or frictional tires and brakes can induce a bit of vibrational energy into the drivetrain without being an immediate concern. But if the ball joints are loosening, this allows that vibrational energy to form a feedback loop until it's noticeable and distracting.
So what you saying is that "Imbalanced or frictional tires and brakes" can cause a shimmy or an abnormal vibration but not a ball joint? In fact what it says is the loose ball joint would exacerbate the problem but not be the cause? [Reply]
Originally Posted by cooper barrett:
No you said a piece of steering linkage/ suspension was a part of a drive train. No $2 words change that. Epigrammaticly A ball joint is not a part of the drive train.
Or, be an asshole. If you adamantly prefer.
I already said I was purposefully colloquial in order to avoid the board's usual charges of hypertechnicality.
No one was confused at the reference, including you.
But you alone harbored butthurt over a mild contradiction of your premise, so you decided to try to change the subject. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Or, be an asshole. If you adamantly prefer.
I already said I was purposefully colloquial in order to avoid the board's usual charges of hypertechnicality.
No one was confused at the reference, including you.
But you alone harbored butthurt over a mild contradiction of your premise, so you decided to try to change the subject.
So what you saying is that "Imbalanced or frictional tires and brakes" can cause a shimmy or an abnormal vibration but not a ball joint? In fact what it says is the loose ball joint would exacerbate the problem but not be the cause? [Reply]
Originally Posted by cooper barrett:
So what you saying is that "Imbalanced or frictional tires and brakes" can cause a shimmy or an abnormal vibration but not a ball joint? In fact what it says is the loose ball joint would exacerbate the problem but not be the cause?
I can't even figure out the syntax of what you're trying to say, if anything, at this point.
Vibration is largely caused by imbalanced or frictionally compromised spinning mass.
Ball joints are part of the feedback control system to smooth out these types of vibrations and maintain directional control. They don't have the mass or the angular velocity to actually be a cause of vibration on par with wheels or discs.
But it often more important from a safety standpoint to repair the feedback control system than the imbalanced rotating mass. [Reply]
Originally Posted by cooper barrett:
So what you saying is that "Imbalanced or frictional tires and brakes" can cause a shimmy or an abnormal vibration but not a ball joint? In fact what it says is the loose ball joint would exacerbate the problem but not be the cause?
A loose ball joint on a front wheel drive car can cause a shimmy by making the cv joints out of align also.
Originally Posted by cooper barrett:
So what you saying is that "Imbalanced or frictional tires and brakes" can cause a shimmy or an abnormal vibration but not a ball joint? In fact what it says is the loose ball joint would exacerbate the problem but not be the cause?
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
A loose ball joint on a front wheel drive car can cause a shimmy by making the cv joints out of align also.
But you should have known that already
SAuto,
I have never seen one that could still be called a ball joint that could cause a a CV joint to cause an vibration. I guess after it breaks and takes out the strut rod, separates the axle, and the tire folds up under the car....But one would think that a prudent person would have heard the metal to metal clunking but then there are some...
I would say that the amount of movement caused by a loose ball joint and other steering and suspension parts could cause a vibration from the outer joint but the CV is made to move outward to make up for the 1/4" of in or out play of a wasted BJ The joints themselves would easily take up the 1/4" of front to back movement. So, unless something is broken, just hanging on, I just don't see it.
There is a term VUEDayJa Which basically means "Ain't never seen nothing like that before." It is a big word especially when looking for gremlins. Therefore I am not going to say it "can't happen" because we have all seen things that theoretically can't happen. [Reply]
