Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
What makes someone a franchise QB? Herbert has choked every big game he’s ever played and was missing easy throws the entire 2nd half of that one. If the Bengals weren’t one of the worst clutch teams in the league themselves, they drop that game from a 21 point lead.
They’re a fraud and will be exposed by the first good team they play.
Franchise QB doesn’t mean clutch. Phillip Rivers was a huge choker but was absolutely a franchise QB [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Herbert is 16th in QBR this season, he hasn’t hit any new level, his team has run up a good record against a bunch of shit teams
You can only beat who you play. Their 3 losses were to the Chiefs (17-10), Steelers (20-10), and Cardinals (17-15). All three teams are leading their respective divisions. And this is an all-new coaching staff. New playbooks on offense and defense. Mostly new skill position players. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
You can only beat who you play. Their 3 losses were to the Chiefs (17-10), Steelers (20-10), and Cardinals (17-15). All three teams are leading their respective divisions. And this is an all-new coaching staff. New playbooks on offense and defense. Mostly new skill position players.
And would have blown a 21 point lead to the woeful Bengals if they had a kicker who could make a FG [Reply]
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
The Chiefs will get their bye going into the playoffs either way.
Either they hold off Buffalo for the one seed or they end up locked into the #2 seed and Andy rests starters and injured players Week 18 against Denver.
Guaranteed one of those two will happen.
That’s the hope but one of those outcomes isn’t guaranteed. Worst case scenario is it is within one game going into the Denver game and we have to play everyone. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
I know but I’m wondering how far one can extend the definition of “franchise QB”
Does Trevor Lawrence count too
Lawrence is about as low as I’d go. I used to think he kinda sucked, but now I’m changing my mind. I kind of want to see him in a functional franchise. The Jaguars are a traveling circus at this point [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
A franchise QB is no serious fan of the team is saying we would be better off going back to the draft and taking our chances.
Part of the problem is that even mediocre QBs are getting paid top dollar after their rookie contracts. If an average QB after his rookie contract was paid like that, things wouldn't look so silly. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
Part of the problem is that even mediocre QBs are getting paid top dollar after their rookie contracts. If an average QB after his rookie contract was paid like that, things wouldn't look so silly.
That's a Darwin Award problem for NFL teams, though. It used to be that rookie QBs got gigantic contracts as if they were basically free agents. Now, teams have at least some body of NFL work to review before they offer the big contract. [Reply]
Bengals finally done I believe. 2 against Pitt and one with Denver will end it. 1 more loss and it's over. 9-8 won't make it past Ravens, Chargers and Denver for a WC. [Reply]