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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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DJ's left nut 08:59 AM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
That smelled like a deliberate sabotage attempt when I read it, trumpeted of course by the unholy fucks at ESPrickN. I can't imagine it would actually sway anybody in the SEC with a brain, but could hurt us in public opinion arena.

Would be nice if it could be proven that this Texa$$ turd was the source of it. Seeing him get professionally ruined would absolutely make my day.
There are people within MU's administration that didn't want to go, remember. Deaton was widely considered to be one of them (if not the chief among them).

There's a very good chance that this was nothing more than a rogue MU admin that decided to try to play God. It's a lot more likely than a journalist quoting Chip Brown as an 'unnamed MU admin'
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mikeyis4dcats. 09:00 AM 10-06-2011
As I understand it nothing would prevent an SEC team from starting their own network, correct? Why does that not worry Mizzou?
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mnchiefsguy 09:01 AM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
There are people within MU's administration that didn't want to go, remember. Deaton was widely considered to be one of them (if not the chief among them).

There's a very good chance that this was nothing more than a rogue MU admin that decided to try to play God. It's a lot more likely than a journalist quoting Chip Brown as an 'unnamed MU admin'
Either way, here's hoping it won't screwing Mizzou.
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mnchiefsguy 09:03 AM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.:
As I understand it nothing would prevent an SEC team from starting their own network, correct? Why does that not worry Mizzou?
Because the SEC is going to go the B1G route and form an SEC network. Florida already has their own network, from what I have read, it just does not generate the type of money that LHN did, so it does not get the attention. Florida, unlike Texas, will fold their network into a SEC network, and everyone will win.
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ChiTown 09:04 AM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy:
So ChiTown, you think Texas is willing to give up LHN for the B1G then?
Did you actually read what he wrote? "The MVC has an agreement to take both KU and KSU..." @GregSwine
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ChiTown 09:05 AM 10-06-2011
http://twitter.com/#!/GregSwine
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DaKCMan AP 09:06 AM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
I can't imagine it would actually sway anybody in the SEC with a brain, but could hurt us in public opinion arena.
Them they're SEC hillbilly's well fall 4 it! /stewie
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Brock 09:07 AM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
http://twitter.com/#!/GregSwine
:-)
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Saulbadguy 09:08 AM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by Brock:
:-)
Feel Time Radio. I accurately predict the future and love T Booger Pickens.
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Saulbadguy 09:09 AM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
Did you actually read what he wrote? "The MVC has an agreement to take both KU and KSU..." @GregSwine
mnchiefsguy has outed himself as a dumbass. He can join Stewie and HHG at the back of the room.
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eazyb81 09:09 AM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.:
As I understand it nothing would prevent an SEC team from starting their own network, correct? Why does that not worry Mizzou?
SEC owns each schools tier 3 rights, but thus far has allowed each school to market the rights on their own. So it would have to receive approval from the league, which seems unlikely considering that every SEC insider is saying the goal of expansion is to have the infrastructure to support an SEC Network.

And honestly, take off the blinders for just a second and look at the Big 12. Do you honestly think any conference that actually has leadership would allow an LHN type of problem to destroy their league like it has destroyed the Big 12?
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mnchiefsguy 09:10 AM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
Did you actually read what he wrote? "The MVC has an agreement to take both KU and KSU..." @GregSwine
Sorry, I did read that, but was focusing more on the OU/Texas part. The MWC part seemed so far out of left field that I did not give it any consideration.
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Saulbadguy 09:11 AM 10-06-2011
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Oh boy. RT @DaveSittler: Source: Big 12 will have two separate announcements today, perhaps late morning. Let the guessing begin.
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ChiTown 09:11 AM 10-06-2011
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
mnchiefsguy has outed himself as a dumbass. He can join Stewie and HHG at the back of the room.
Mizzou fans are too close to the situation right now. I think the whole lot of them could use a timeout.
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Saulbadguy 09:13 AM 10-06-2011
eh...


kbohls kbohls
Big 12 presidents and chancellors have voted to invite TCU to join the league, should be finalized over next several days.
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