Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
You're comparing a performance against an all time great defense vs an average steelers defense that got raped a week later.
Sound logic.
You're the one who said it doesn't happen. Playoff games are low scoring slogs all the time, it's a team game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
No, I said contenders CAN score more than 16 at home.
The Rams offense did what it had to to win the game against an all time elite D.
The Chiefs didn't against a pedestrian unit.
Huge difference.
Well, when there is a sample size of 1 to analyze, you can only determine HAS or HASN'T. CAN or CAN'T remains untested.
The fact remains, the entire team laid an egg last January. If you want to posit that this is an immutable wall, it's an immutable wall for the entire squad and we need to start over completely. If you want to posit that it's an immutable wall for one player and everyone else will perform wildly differently and better in his absence, you're obsessed as a side effect of PTSD. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
It's a pathetic dumbing down of the term "franchise QB" to apply it to anyone that slaps together 50 wins for a franchise.
Essentially, if you start handing that term out willy nilly to the Alex Smiths, Bernie Kosars and Jake Delhommes of the world, it means nothing.
The new QB participation trophy, true fan/lil chiefy style.
Jake and Bernie. Bernie to the playoffs each of his first 4 seasons, and Jake to the SB in his 3rd year with Carolina.
Finally, we have a metric and time table that Mahomes MUST surpass to avoid being a failure.
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Jake and Bernie, both drafted by their respective teams. Bernie to the playoffs each of his first 4 seasons, and Jake to the SB in his 3rd year..
Jake Delhomme didn't get to the SB until his seventh season. Nor was he drafted by the Panthers.
You're just making shit up now to support an agenda. Either that or you're a dumbass. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Your original point isn't valid, then. Just delete the post. Unless Mahomes is going to NFL Europe.
Like it matters, you'll either fall madly, deeply in love with one boner-inducing pass in a meaningless situation that you'll gif bomb the BB with for time immemorial, or you won't and will instead start yammering for yet another rebuild. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Wrong. The defense held the opposition to 18 points. That is a winning effort in the playoffs.
That's like Smith throwing for 250 yards and 2 TD.
Instead he gave us a bag of shit.
If it weren't for defense and Toub's work with ST, this QB would be lucky to win even 1/2 of the games he has played as a Chief.
Alex has shown franchise QB qualities exactly ONE time in his KC career. And where did he do it? Did he do it in the playoffs, where guys like Roth and occasionally Flacco strap-up and make the donuts?
No.
He blew his wad and played the game of his Chiefs career in a division match up at home in week 3.
And that was all, and there ain't no more. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Like it matters, you'll either fall madly, deeply in love with one boner-inducing pass in a meaningless situation that you'll gif bomb the BB with for time immemorial, or you won't and will instead start yammering for yet another rebuild.
Silliness. Mahomes will be given a long leash to prove his worth. It's the least this fan base can do after slurping off game managers for almost a decade. [Reply]