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DaneMcCloud 03:28 PM 01-20-2016
For all things Episode VIII related info including spoilers.

The release date is now December 15, 2017.

The Official Synopsis from Star Wars.com

“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”










New footage in Japanese Trailer


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Chiefspants 11:31 AM 01-20-2018
Hmm. After reflection, I find myself returning to this review by the NYTimes.

Originally Posted by :
It's a big, expensive, time-consuming, essentially mechanical operation... [It] is about as personal as a Christmas card from a bank." -
http://www.nytimes.com/library/film/061580empire.html
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Rausch 11:37 AM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Is incorrect
At some point you have to quit defending the injection of politics into film.

Perhaps not the one's you work on but the idea as a whole.


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DaneMcCloud 11:48 AM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Most of the "Stars" in movies these days take a piece of the gross box office instead of or in addition to their salary, correct?
While every deal is structured differently, no one out of possibly Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher are seeing backend from TLJ.

For Rogue One, no one was given back end and no one was paid more than $500,000 dollars for their role.

Now, if you're Mark Wahlberg or The Rock or Robert Downey, Jr or Tom Cruise, sure, they're getting Producer Credits and back end.

But Daisy Ridley or John Boyega? Highly doubtful.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
If Disney is inflating these figures, wont that cost them more money when they have to pay out the % to the film makers?
I'm not sure I follow. Disney isn't reporting the box office grosses. Those are being reported by sources like The Hollywood Reporter, Variety, Box Office Mojo, etc.

Also, the other thing to keep in mind is that while Disney's terms for Domestic Exhibitors is pretty tough, Disney still only receives 65% of the Domestic Box Office and after 4 weeks, that number usually favors the Exhibitor even more (I haven't seen any terms but after 4 weeks, that percentage is reduced in favor of the Exhibitor).

After 4 weeks, TLJ earned $580 million domestically, $377 million of which goes to Disney and the remaining $203 (plus concessions) is shared by the movie theater chains.

Throw in marketing and a little "Studio Accounting" and it's easy to see why very few actors receive Revenue Participation.
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DaneMcCloud 11:57 AM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
People are fucking insane. This movie beats the ever-living piss out of Horn Rims 'lack of imagination'-fest.
Better than bad doesn't equal good.

Both films had excellent casting, direction, dialog, set pieces, VFX and cinematography.

While TFA was a Beat-for-Beat remake of A New Hope, The Last Jedi went off the rails and basically destroyed the Star Wars Galaxy canon.

If everyone can access The Force, why didn't Tarkin or Krennic or Mon Mothma use The Force?

Why were Baze Malbus and Chirrut Inwe "Guaridans of the Whills" if everyone can use The Force?

Why was an entire moon dedicated to the Jedi (Jedha) if everyone has access to The Force?

Between RJ changing the rules of The Force and his dopey "Holdo Maneuver", not to mention Finn, Poe and Rose's useless side mission, the wasted characters of Snoke and Captain Phasma, the entire movie is just a gigantic "Fuck You" to the original trilogy.
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DaneMcCloud 11:59 AM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by Rausch:
At some point you have to quit defending the injection of politics into film.
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
People are fucking insane. This movie beats the ever-living piss out of Horn Rims 'lack of imagination'-fest.

Thank.

God.
Originally Posted by temper11:
This
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Is incorrect

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Rausch 12:10 PM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
I have no idea what you're talking about.
CP says it's good, so, I stand corrected...
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Hammock Parties 12:14 PM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by Rausch:
Why do you think George Lucas later said he sold his people (Lucasfilm) to white slavers? (yes, that's an actual quote.)

He was making a joke...
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DaneMcCloud 12:25 PM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by Rausch:
CP says it's good, so, I stand corrected...
It still don't know what you're talking about...
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Rausch 12:31 PM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
It still don't know what you're talking about...
Kennedy clearly impressed on her director what she wanted.

No, she didn't write a script. She just had all the money, 6 of 8 writers being RABID FEMINISTS, and a "vision" of what was wanted.



Outside of that he was free to create his own vision...

:-)
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Hammock Parties 12:33 PM 01-20-2018
It's a dumb argument because the most interesting character in the movie is Kylo Ren and his relationships with his father figures.

Rey is just a construct for the audience to experience the movie through.
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Rausch 12:40 PM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Rey is just a construct for the audience to experience the movie through.
I'll keep my opinions aside but I think that's why the film fails.

Rey clearly is the "everyman" of the new trilogy. What did she do in TLJ that made you want her to succeed?

What happened in that film that made you feel sorry for her?

What happened in TLJ that changed your opinion of her?

Exactly...
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Rausch 12:43 PM 01-20-2018
Here is why TLJ SUCKED - EVERYONE wanted the answer to two questions:

1) What has Luke been up to?
2) Why is Rey such a badass?

TLJ said "I don't care what you want, fuck you, I'm giving you something else."

Why are people shocked at the response?...
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Hammock Parties 12:49 PM 01-20-2018
Speak for yourself...

*shrug*
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DaneMcCloud 12:58 PM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by Rausch:
Rey clearly is the "everyman" of the new trilogy. What did she do in TLJ that made you want her to succeed?
I've stated this earlier but do you think anyone will be clamoring for a new Star Wars film in 32 years following the further adventures of Poe, Finn and Rey?

:-)

No fucking way.
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Rausch 01:06 PM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
I've stated this earlier but do you think anyone will be clamoring for a new Star Wars film in 32 years following the further adventures of Poe, Finn and Rey?
So it's not even a sandcastle made of sand, it's made of feces.


Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
:-)

No ****ing way.
It's not horrid writing - it's not even writing. It's a message funneled down to the director by Feminist in King Kennedy.

This is why I want to fucking slap people when they throw shade at Kevin Feige. He's a dick. He is. HE IS. But he has a clear vision and it will not deviate.

He's the last bastion holding off the SJW nonsense. His money holds the midas touch and once he's gone it's over. It's done.

It's all SJW after he leaves...
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