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A 28-year-old Lake Charles-area woman faces a bevy of charges after Louisiana police said she repeatedly had sex with a 13-year-old boy who she met at the Bible camp where she was a teacher/aide.
According to the Sulphur Daily News, Heather Daughdrill initiated the relationship in June and it continued until a complaint was filed in October. After her arrest on November 29, police told the paper that Daughdrill would pick her victim up from school without his parents' knowledge and subject him to sexual encounters. Louisiana cops also reportedly found sexually explicit texts between Daughdrill and her victim.
Friday, January 18, 2019 11:30PM
PLEASANTVILLE, N.J. (WPVI) -- A Pleasantville high school teacher was arrested today on charges of having sex with a student.
The Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office says 30-year-old Jessica Gaeckle of Galloway Township engaged in sexual relations with an 18-year-old student.
And they say she told the student to destroy evidence upon learning of the investigation.
Kid was 18, how is this illegal? Unethical maybe, but illegal? [Reply]
Originally Posted by chinaski:
Kid was 18, how is this illegal? Unethical maybe, but illegal?
As has come up repeatedly in this thread, in some states it is ILLEGAL for a teacher to have relations with a student, even if he/she is of age. It's ridiculous and absurd, but the law in some places. F'ing stupid. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
As has come up repeatedly in this thread, in some states it is ILLEGAL for a teacher to have relations with a student, even if he/she is of age. It's ridiculous and absurd, but the law in some places. F'ing stupid.
Yeah, that's stupid as hell. Thanks for clarifying. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
As has come up repeatedly in this thread, in some states it is ILLEGAL for a teacher to have relations with a student, even if he/she is of age. It's ridiculous and absurd, but the law in some places. F'ing stupid.
From an ethical standpoint I can see it. You don't want someone in a position of power forcing a student to do something to get a grade. But one could argue that the same power differential exists in the workplace, and I think that's a civil issue and not a criminal issue.
So is your 'stupid' statement aimed at the fact that it's a criminal thing for teachers instead of civil? Or do you think it shouldn't even be a civil thing?
Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. I guess I'm saying that I think it's a good idea to have some recourse against people abusing power in this way. I just don't really know the best way to do that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
From an ethical standpoint I can see it. You don't want someone in a position of power forcing a student to do something to get a grade. But one could argue that the same power differential exists in the workplace, and I think that's a civil issue and not a criminal issue.
So is your 'stupid' statement aimed at the fact that it's a criminal thing for teachers instead of civil? Or do you think it shouldn't even be a civil thing?
Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. I guess I'm saying that I think it's a good idea to have some recourse against people abusing power in this way. I just don't really know the best way to do that.
I can't speak for the other posters, but you are 100% correct that it should not be accepted for a teacher to sleep with a student. If people want to argue that teachers shouldn't do jail time for sleeping with a student that is of legal age, I'd agree with that. Just take their teaching license. There is a definite power imbalance between teachers and students. Age shouldn't excuse it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
As has come up repeatedly in this thread, in some states it is ILLEGAL for a teacher to have relations with a student, even if he/she is of age. It's ridiculous and absurd, but the law in some places. F'ing stupid.
ya, because getting laid by your teacher is really important to getting an education.
...people have lost their minds.
The teacher should absolutely be FIRED. And if you want to revoke her teaching credentials and ban her from teaching ever again, I'm ok with that also.
But to actually be at risk to go to jail over this? When they were both consenting adults? WTF?? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
From an ethical standpoint I can see it. You don't want someone in a position of power forcing a student to do something to get a grade. But one could argue that the same power differential exists in the workplace, and I think that's a civil issue and not a criminal issue.
That unequal power relationship can occur in many contexts, and if you're holding grades over someone's head, then it becomes potentially nonconsensual, and therefore rape.
If you interview the student and they're like "oh, no, he/she was totally hot and I was completely down for it. Hell I approached the teacher!" and they're still at risk for jail? I don't see any logic at all behind that.
Legal age by definition means eligible to consent to sex. So the crime is what, exactly, here?
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So is your 'stupid' statement aimed at the fact that it's a criminal thing for teachers instead of civil? Or do you think it shouldn't even be a civil thing?
Yes, criminal sanctions. If you want to fire her, that makes perfect sense. It's an inappropriate relationship. If you want to revoke her teaching credentials so she doesn't teach elsewhere, no problem.
JAIL?! Permanent criminal record? Why? That makes no sense at all to me. How
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Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. I guess I'm saying that I think it's a good idea to have some recourse against people abusing power in this way. I just don't really know the best way to do that.
I wouldn't have it include any "civil" remedy either by the student against the teacher, if it was consensual. Where's the logic in that.
Again, the problem is that it's inappropriate for a teacher to have such a relationship with a student due to the power imbalance, but the punishment seems seriously disproportionate to the event if the teacher is threatened with jail. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
That unequal power relationship can occur in many contexts, and if you're holding grades over someone's head, then it becomes potentially nonconsensual, and therefore rape.
If you interview the student and they're like "oh, no, he/she was totally hot and I was completely down for it. Hell I approached the teacher!" and they're still at risk for jail? I don't see any logic at all behind that.
Legal age by definition means eligible to consent to sex. So the crime is what, exactly, here?
Yes, criminal sanctions. If you want to fire her, that makes perfect sense. It's an inappropriate relationship. If you want to revoke her teaching credentials so she doesn't teach elsewhere, no problem.
JAIL?! Permanent criminal record? Why? That makes no sense at all to me. How
I wouldn't have it include any "civil" remedy either by the student against the teacher, if it was consensual. Where's the logic in that.
Again, the problem is that it's inappropriate for a teacher to have such a relationship with a student due to the power imbalance, but the punishment seems seriously disproportionate to the event if the teacher is threatened with jail.
Precisely this.
If it was purely consensual, there is no crime. Now, from an employment standpoint, what she did is unethical and it should warrant termination. [Reply]
Friday, January 18, 2019 11:30PM
PLEASANTVILLE, N.J. (WPVI) -- A Pleasantville high school teacher was arrested today on charges of having sex with a student.
The Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office says 30-year-old Jessica Gaeckle of Galloway Township engaged in sexual relations with an 18-year-old student.
And they say she told the student to destroy evidence upon learning of the investigation.
