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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Dante84 07:19 PM 04-27-2017
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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DRM08 09:37 AM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Right.

But it's his fantasy value that actually fuels all the gushing the talking heads do. Like him being the Bills' leading rusher every week is actually a GOOD thing.
It’s a good thing until the injuries pile up like they did for Cam Newton.
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htismaqe 09:40 AM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by DRM08:
It’s a good thing until the injuries pile up like they did for Cam Newton.
Personally, I think leaning on a QB to run so much exposes a flaw in the offense somewhere. Lamar runs because he isn't a great pocket passer. Allen runs because they don't have a running game otherwise. And so on.

I much prefer a guy like Mahomes, who CAN run but would rather dial it up with his arm.
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DRM08 09:46 AM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Personally, I think leaning on a QB to run so much exposes a flaw in the offense somewhere. Lamar runs because he isn't a great pocket passer. Allen runs because they don't have a running game otherwise. And so on.

I much prefer a guy like Mahomes, who CAN run but would rather dial it up with his arm.
Buffalo’s run game looks good enough without Allen from what I’ve seen. But it’s hard to defend those QB run plays, so it’s understandable why they do it.
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tredadda 09:48 AM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Personally, I think leaning on a QB to run so much exposes a flaw in the offense somewhere. Lamar runs because he isn't a great pocket passer. Allen runs because they don't have a running game otherwise. And so on.

I much prefer a guy like Mahomes, who CAN run but would rather dial it up with his arm.
Exactly. I am all for QBs scrambling and having the ability to pick up yards when they do it, but designed runs are a great way to shorten a QBs career.
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htismaqe 09:52 AM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Buffalo’s run game looks good enough without Allen from what I’ve seen. But it’s hard to defend those QB run plays, so it’s understandable why they do it.
The designed QB runs open up the rest of the running game. If Buffalo were forced to line up and play a traditional running scheme, they lack the ability to do it. Kind of like the Chiefs, honestly.
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raybec 4 10:04 AM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The designed QB runs open up the rest of the running game. If Buffalo were forced to line up and play a traditional running scheme, they lack the ability to do it. Kind of like the Chiefs, honestly.
I really think the Chiefs could do it if they ran a power run scheme. Get away from the zone/rpo game and I think they could do pretty well.
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Tribal Warfare 10:58 AM 11-04-2022

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Pasta Little Brioni 11:04 AM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by DRM08:
It’s a good thing until the injuries pile up like they did for Cam Newton.
Cam Allen a coming. He will not hold up taking these hits in meaningless regular season games. Look at the QBs in NFL history with longevity and it sure isn't idiots like this
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tredadda 11:15 AM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother:
Cam Allen a coming. He will not hold up taking these hits in meaningless regular season games. Look at the QBs in NFL history with longevity and it sure isn't idiots like this
Especially considering he is the Anti Lamar. Lamar avoids contact, Allen seeks it out.
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Donger 11:21 AM 11-04-2022
Sorry if Q, but this is awesome:


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crispystl 11:41 AM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Buffalo’s run game looks good enough without Allen from what I’ve seen. But it’s hard to defend those QB run plays, so it’s understandable why they do it.
They also seem to keep calling them at questionable times...like after the game is well out of reach for their opponent. I'd save that shit for the playoffs myself.
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Jamie 12:00 PM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Using PPR, that's correct.
That's correct for any fantasy football league I've ever been in, PPR or not.
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KChiefs1 12:01 PM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
This should get some people stewing.


Fantasy football & Josh Allen is the king of that.


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DRM08 01:07 PM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by crispystl:
They also seem to keep calling them at questionable times...like after the game is well out of reach for their opponent. I'd save that shit for the playoffs myself.
Agreed 1,000%. I would try to save Allen’s designed rushing attempts for the 4th quarter of very close games and obviously the playoffs. Doesn’t make sense to do that stuff against inferior opponents in regular season games that quickly turn into blowout status.
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ThaVirus 02:26 PM 11-04-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Right but look at the gap between Allen and Mahomes.

Still doesn't bother me.

Any league I've ever been in awards QBs 1 point per 25 passing yards and 4 points per passing TD while they gain 1 point per 10 rushing yards and 6 points for every rushing TD.

Pat is generally a better, more efficient passer, but Allen runs a fuckton more, especially around the goal line.
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