Originally Posted by staylor26:
Look, I want Hopkins too, but this is just silly.
I think he has a point. I mean, it's pretty much what GB did to Rodgers. Not the contract part, but every year GB refused to draft a WR in the first round. Every year they chose to give him a little bit less offensively. And it obviously got to a point where Rodgers didn't want to discuss the draft at all. And also obviously it created a rift between Aaron and the GB FO that was irreparable after awhile.
Mahomes took a very team-friendly deal because Veach/Clark told him that they would continue to keep the roster filled with weapons every year. It could make Pat question that promise, if year after year, the FO does not pull the trigger in cases like this, or in the draft of course.
Now, nothing like that would happen this season, but if it happened again next season, or basically became a kind of trend . . . I could see any QB begin to lose confidence in his FO after a few seasons like that, just saying. [Reply]
I have no problem with people downvoting me, but if you're going to constantly do it without having anything to actually say, I'm going to eventually call you out. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
I think he has a point. I mean, it's pretty much what GB did to Rodgers. Not the contract part, but every year GB refused to draft a WR in the first round. Every year they chose to give him a little bit less offensively. And it obviously got to a point where Rodgers didn't want to discuss the draft at all. And also obviously it created a rift between Aaron and the GB FO that was irreparable after awhile.
Mahomes took a very team-friendly deal because Veach/Clark told him that they would continue to keep the roster filled with weapons every year. It could make Pat question that promise, if year after year, the FO does not pull the trigger in cases like this, or in the draft of course.
Now, nothing like that would happen this season, but if it happened again next season, or basically became a kind of trend . . . I could see any QB begin to lose confidence in his FO after a few seasons like that, just saying.
It wasn't just the draft picks, he would offer FA suggestions of guys he would like to play with and they basically told him they didn't give a shit about his opinion. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
So it's not just me?
I have no problem with people downvoting me, but if you're going to constantly do it without having anything to actually say, I'm going to eventually call you out.
It's easier to accept that there are some real fuckin' Gomer's on CP. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
I think he has a point. I mean, it's pretty much what GB did to Rodgers. Not the contract part, but every year GB refused to draft a WR in the first round. Every year they chose to give him a little bit less offensively. And it obviously got to a point where Rodgers didn't want to discuss the draft at all. And also obviously it created a rift between Aaron and the GB FO that was irreparable after awhile.
Mahomes took a very team-friendly deal because Veach/Clark told him that they would continue to keep the roster filled with weapons every year. It could make Pat question that promise, if year after year, the FO does not pull the trigger in cases like this, or in the draft of course.
Now, nothing like that would happen this season, but if it happened again next season, or basically became a kind of trend . . . I could see any QB begin to lose confidence in his FO after a few seasons like that, just saying.
Right, that was exactly my point. Not like Pat is going to storm in if we don't sign him and demand a new deal, just that it would rub the wrong way a little, and you can't make it a trend. Signing Donovan Smith I thought was a good start, but this would really push this offseason over the top, and you're a legit juggernaut with a drastically better roster than the one you just won the Super Bowl with at every level. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
It wasn't just the draft picks, he would offer FA suggestions of guys he would like to play with and they basically told him they didn't give a shit about his opinion.
Iirc, once the GB GM told him "you're just the QB."
Originally Posted by Mecca:
And people wonder why he didn't show up at OTA's and completely changed the way he acted toward the organization.
Yeah, and I'm not absolving Rodgers either. it's not like he made things easy for the FO up to that point either.
But saying that to your future first ballot HOF SB-winning QB, and the face of your team for over a dozen years to that point, in a public forum . . . that was the year I told my GB buddy that Aaron should just ask to be traded. I know I would've said some impolite things to my boss after that, just saying. [Reply]