Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I mean if thuney plays like this at LT I don’t know the benefit of having him out there. Again, this isn’t about Humphreys being an upgrade over thuney at LT. I think people forget that we are downgrading thuney by turning a hall of fame LG into a barely acceptable LT
The whole reason to do it was it appeared that Mahomes was much more comfortable and played much better.
He didn't today. He played like Kingsly/Morris were at LT today. He held the ball too long and wouldn't throw it away.
I'm guessing that the Texans two standout CB's were making him nervous about letting it go. It's all I can come up with... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
At this point, what else can you even do to appease Mahomes? He's got a great situation.
Plenty of talent on the OL, decent options at RB even on 3rd down, multiple TE options, multiple WR options.
It's weird, he's got an offense more than half the league would dream for, and he's just playing like hot ass. I wonder what's up.
Well you play the 5 best players.
Instead we played 'the guy Mahomes trusts' and he still looked like shit.
{shrug}
Just hope he plays better, I guess. Your guess is as good as mine as to whether he actually will. There's seemingly no rhyme or reason to it at this point. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Well you play the 5 best players.
Instead we played 'the guy Mahomes trusts' and he still looked like shit.
{shrug}
Just hope he plays better, I guess. Your guess is as good as mine as to whether he actually will. There's seemingly no rhyme or reason to it at this point.
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
The coaches picked their guy. Idk.
We gotta live with it and be better.
And again - I don't even know that they got it wrong. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.
My point is that it doesn't fucking matter either way. And if nothing else, I'm glad it wasn't Humphries out there today because he'd have been scapegoated for this as quick as a hiccup.
Since nobody will criticize Thuney it becomes 'man...I don't know - that was weird...'. Bit if it were Humphries he'd have gotten massacred in this thread and others.
It simply doesn't matter. We've had a baseline of acceptable LT play in all bit 2, maybe 3 games that PM has started this year. And around that LT play we have gotten probably top 5 performance from the other 4 OL.
And yet we act like the OL is screwing things up.
It isn't. At all.
Put Willie Roaf over there for all I care - there's still no telling what you're going to get from PM right now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rausch:
He's still playing like game manager Mahomes.
Is that what you're seeing?
Because I'd have taken that today.
I don't think that's what we got. Game managers don't lock onto their security blanket and otherwise wreck the offense around them. Rookies and backups do. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
It might. It's possible.
But is anyone going to take that risk? You've had two weeks of rest and prep time to pick someone to play LT, you pick them, and then the next week you tell the coaches and the players you're going with the other guy? You really wanna throw a wrench in the gameplan like that? Share snaps between both guys in case Humphries doesn't work out?
It's unfeasible. It just doesn't work. The entire team suffers trying to juggle 2 different guys at the most important position on the line. You pick a guy and stick with him to avoid this exact situation.
It truly sucks. We never found a suitable guy at LT and now the entire left side of the line is compromised. But that's just how the dice fell this year. The deadline to find a fix at LT was 1 month ago, hopefully sooner, and they didn't get it done.
This is what we're left with. And we have to make it work for 2 more games.
This is a feeble argument tbh. It's about what's best for the team. And no-one is gonna moan if Joe is put back in his rightful position. Especially after he wasn't great today. Bottom line is we have an opportunity to make the line better by putting a pro bowl LT onto the line. And hopefully Andy takes that chance and stops being so conservative. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
This is a feeble argument tbh. It's about what's best for the team. And no-one is gonna moan if Joe is put back in his rightful position. Especially after he wasn't great today. Bottom line is we have an opportunity to make the line better by putting a pro bowl LT onto the line. And hopefully Andy takes that chance and stops being so conservative.
I'm not gonna re-do this conversation after we've gone through it ad nauseum for the past 2 weeks.
Andy's not gonna do it, and that's all there is to it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Is that what you're seeing?
Because I'd have taken that today.
I don't think that's what we got. Game managers don't lock onto their security blanket and otherwise wreck the offense around them. Rookies and backups do.
It was Smithian for sure and it won't be good enough moving forward however they were still able to manage 23 on a good defense.. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
I'm not gonna re-do this conversation after we've gone through it ad nauseum for the past 2 weeks.
Andy's not gonna do it, and that's all there is to it.
Lol he spent all week rotating them in practice after Joe had some "good" games. Now we'll see what happens this week after Joe wasn't good :-) . [Reply]
Just watched the Bills vs Chiefs preview video from the NFL youtube page and they say Joe gave up TWO SACKS AND 15% PRESSURE RATE vs the Texans. They also say the line itself gave up a 40% pressure rate. I knew it was rough but THAT rough? :-)
Andy better think hard about this. Could DJ really be worse than that? Imo very doubtful. He's already faced better D-lines and was better imo. [Reply]
