Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Not like Tyreek was perfect. He was a major contributor to KC's turnover issues last year.
You're correct that it's too early to say in either direction, but I do think there is *potential* for Mahomes to be a better QB if he simply focuses on spreading the ball to various guys instead of trying to force the ball to a superstar player.
He was doing that because other than Kelce, the other options were Hardman, Pringle, and Robinson.
We could have still got Juju even with Hill here. And Mahomes would have still looked amazing. [Reply]
Of all the NFL QBs that are considered the best ever for accuracy, Mahomes has the most variation in velocity and trajectory on his throws. Amazing talent, great attitude and fun to watch play.
We are so blessed to have this guy as our QB. [Reply]
They list a ton of strengths, and then look at the first six items on the list of weaknesses:
Can be inconsistent in his approach
Needs to play inside the offense and show more discipline
Too eager to go big game hunting
Ravenous appetite for the explosive play can also bring unwanted trouble
Willingness to default to playground style appears to limit his ability to get into a consistent rhythm
Needs to improve anticipatory reads and learn to take what the defense gives him
Every one of these is a strength if you're an open-minded coach/GM. But too many were locked into a box of what a quarterback should be, and that's how you end up with game manager quarterbacks. There's no doubt that a bunch of teams didn't see the talent because the talent wasn't cookie-cutter.
It's much easier to get a guy to dial it back than to dial it up, especially for guys with borderline talent. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Not like Tyreek was perfect. He was a major contributor to KC's turnover issues last year.
You're correct that it's too early to say in either direction, but I do think there is *potential* for Mahomes to be a better QB if he simply focuses on spreading the ball to various guys instead of trying to force the ball to a superstar player.
Potential?
It's almost assuredly going to make Mahomes a better QB in the long run.
EDIT: I probably should have added that it ALREADY HAS made him better. We don't get to the showing we had on Sunday without the learning curve of last year, IMO. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jettio:
Of all the NFL QBs that are considered the best ever for accuracy, Mahomes has the most variation in velocity and trajectory on his throws. Amazing talent, great attitude and fun to watch play.
We are so blessed to have this guy as our QB.
This thread should be a temple for worship and reverence. I sometimes think we shouldn't even type in this thread. We should only post photos of doves. [Reply]
It's almost assuredly going to make Mahomes a better QB in the long run.
EDIT: I probably should have added that it ALREADY HAS made him better. We don't get to the showing we had on Sunday without the learning curve of last year, IMO.
I don't take anything for granted, so that's why I said "potential" to get better by not having Tyreek as a crutch. I'm certainly hoping it will play out that way. We will see how it goes over the long haul. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
This is all just positioning and public relations. I'm sure that he liked Mahomes if we assume that he knew anything about quarterbacks. But if he was that confident he would have traded up. You don't recognize the best quarterback in the world and then lose him because you didn't want to give up a second round pick in a trade. That's not a risk you take.
Half the GMs in the 1980s league have talked about how they saw Joe Montana's talent and would have taken him with their next pick if the 49ers hadn't taken him. In the third round.
The truth is that nine GMs didn't see Patrick Mahomes II's talent, and 22 others didn't see it well enough to engineer a trade up to get him. Only one team was smart enough to see his talent and make sure that they could get him.
There was a pro golfer in the Saints war room who confirmed the Saints were going to take Mahomes.
Golfer Ryan Palmer: Saints wanted Patrick Mahomes
Published: Apr 28, 2017
The Kansas City Chiefs paid a pretty penny to move up to the No. 10 overall pick to snare quarterback of the future, Patrick Mahomes.
The reason Andy Reid and John Dorsey needed to give up two first-round picks and a third-rounder to secure Mahomes is that they believed another team was eyeing the quarterback.
The speculation during the draft was that the New Orleans Saints targeted the big-armed Texas Tech product at No. 11 to be their heir to Drew Brees.
That speculation was confirmed from an odd source on Friday.
Golfer Ryan Palmer was in the Saints' war room on Thursday night, along with fellow golfer Jordan Spieth. Palmer told reporters on Friday the Saints were "really big into Mahomes."
Originally Posted by Pawnmower:
not to mention the salary cap considerations and what that will allow us to do elsewhere
No kidding. Hopefully the money can be spent in a wise manner on the OL and defense. Gotta avoid some of the mistakes like the Frank Clark contract in the future.
I think it's pretty amazing you can have Kelce at $14M compared to receivers demanding $30M. Kelce is worth every penny. He's an incredible player, but he also has none of the ego that seems to exist with the big time WR's. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Deep in the pit of his soul, Sean Payton knows that he's still coaching if he'd have drafted Mahomes. And that he'd be coaching for another 15 years. And he'd go down among the all-time great coaches.
He can sit there and chuckle and talk about how happy they were about getting Lattimore all he wants. He can say "we both won" if it makes him feel better. But this Thursday he'll be sitting at home watching that game knowing full well that he'd be on his way to being an historical coaching icon if he'd have swapped places with the Bengals.
And man, if he really got out of that meeting and told his staff "hey, keep this stuff secret because THAT'S our QBOTF..." how do you not flip a 2nd out there to get him and just knock it out?
I think he's really just not trying to put Lattimore down. You can tell they would have absolutely drafted Mahomes over Lattimore while fist pumping. He just doesn't want to hurt Lattimores feelings. [Reply]
