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DaFace 11:23 AM 06-27-2016
A place to talk about investing stuff.
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lewdog 09:42 PM 01-31-2020
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Don’t have to come up with as much cash to buy a share
That's the only benefit.

Doesn't mean it makes the stock more valuable like so many seem to think. He's saying he'd be all over an Amazon stock split, and if that's true, just buy shares now. 1 at the current price vs 2 at a split is the same value if you're limited on funds.
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ghak99 10:10 PM 01-31-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
That's the only benefit.

Doesn't mean it makes the stock more valuable like so many seem to think. He's saying he'd be all over an Amazon stock split, and if that's true, just buy shares now. 1 at the current price vs 2 at a split is the same value if you're limited on funds.
There's bound to be free advertising during the split which leads to the impulse buys that generally follow the news cycle. The lack of "sticker shock" can increase sales in people who had been on the fence as well. Ya, it really doesn't make sense, but sticker shock is a mental barrier of entry for many.

Even if these affects wear off over time, it can definitely increase the value on short term trades. No split, no hype bounce. The assumed bounce my be what moves it from "Meh" to "Lets give it a shot" for people who try to play the rest of the field's emotional responses.
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Buehler445 12:17 AM 02-01-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
That's the only benefit.

Doesn't mean it makes the stock more valuable like so many seem to think. He's saying he'd be all over an Amazon stock split, and if that's true, just buy shares now. 1 at the current price vs 2 at a split is the same value if you're limited on funds.
From a technical perspective, sure. You’re right. But companies don’t split who think there’s a chance it could go down.

Plus all the stuff ghak posted.

There is a lot of nuance that gets traded in the marketplace.
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lewdog 06:28 AM 02-01-2020
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
From a technical perspective, sure. You’re right. But companies don’t split who think there’s a chance it could go down.

Plus all the stuff ghak posted.

There is a lot of nuance that gets traded in the marketplace.
So you agree it’s all psychological. Great.

The value of the stock is the same whether amazon is $2k or $1k is a share. You’d be in better shape to buy in before a split if you believe in the company.

Thank you.
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Buehler445 08:08 AM 02-01-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
So you agree it’s all psychological. Great.

The value of the stock is the same whether amazon is $2k or $1k is a share. You’d be in better shape to buy in before a split if you believe in the company.

Thank you.
We’re talking past each other.


You’re saying that a guy shouldn’t buy a share on a stock split because INTERNALLY the valuation shouldn’t change. But not all trades are made that way.

There can be a substantial bounce IN THE MARKETPLACE after a split.

RunKC didn’t specify his strategy here. He could very well buy on the announcement, ride it awhile and get back out, capturing the hype wave. That isn’t necessarily a bad strategy.

Or

RunKC could be using news of a stock split as validation for recent gains that they aren’t just a run to stability on this coronavirus thing. Logic would dictate that if it was an unexpected bounce or unsubstantiated within the business, they wouldn’t split. Which wouldn’t necessarily be a bad strategy.

Or

He could be just looking for a lower cost into a share. Which wouldn’t necessarily be a bad strategy.

I agree with you in principle if you’re looking at a buy and hold strategy. But there are some things that RunKC could be looking at that could be sound strategies also. He just didn’t specify.

You can both be right.
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lewdog 10:23 AM 02-01-2020
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
We’re talking past each other.


You’re saying that a guy shouldn’t buy a share on a stock split because INTERNALLY the valuation shouldn’t change. But not all trades are made that way.

There can be a substantial bounce IN THE MARKETPLACE after a split.

RunKC didn’t specify his strategy here. He could very well buy on the announcement, ride it awhile and get back out, capturing the hype wave. That isn’t necessarily a bad strategy.

Or

RunKC could be using news of a stock split as validation for recent gains that they aren’t just a run to stability on this coronavirus thing. Logic would dictate that if it was an unexpected bounce or unsubstantiated within the business, they wouldn’t split. Which wouldn’t necessarily be a bad strategy.

Or

He could be just looking for a lower cost into a share. Which wouldn’t necessarily be a bad strategy.

I agree with you in principle if you’re looking at a buy and hold strategy. But there are some things that RunKC could be looking at that could be sound strategies also. He just didn’t specify.

You can both be right.
By waiting for a stock split you just missed a 10% gain, dumbass!!!

/Won
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Pointer19 04:23 PM 02-03-2020
To temper the feeling that I just blew through way too big a percentage of my paycheck on SB LIV gear, I'm throwing an equal amount of money into my IRA.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
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MagicHef 01:16 PM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Tesla scares me as an investment because the founder didn't start the company to make money, but to change the vehicle landscape. I'd rather invest in companies whose primary goal is to make money.
FYI, don't listen to me.
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Rain Man 02:03 PM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
FYI, don't listen to me.
If they can keep up these 20% daily gains for the rest of the year, I'll be rich.
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Munson 07:30 PM 02-04-2020
Tesla stock is on fire. It closed today at $887.06/share.

And in after hours trading, it's over $900.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 07:44 PM 02-04-2020

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Hammock Parties 10:23 AM 02-06-2020
IQ up another 5% today

WE GOING NUKULAR
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ChiTown 10:25 AM 02-06-2020
This has been a magical week in the markets. So much winning.....
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Great Expectations 08:49 AM 02-07-2020
I finally dumped IQ and bought a bunch of PG&E. I should recoup my losses in about a month. Look at PG&E’s chart.
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Hammock Parties 08:55 AM 02-07-2020
Bad move.
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