Originally Posted by ping2000:
The Traverse is a big pile of monkey shit. Ours was a poorly designed lemon. We had oil leaking in our driveway. The dealer asked if we had recently had the oil changed. He said that explains it. The stupid frame rails are right under the oil drain plug and the oil collects there. He said if they don't mop it all up it drips everywhere. He said it's a total asspain to clean it up and they never get it all. Nice design dicks. Then there was a recall on the rotors for the Acadia. We had an issue with ours. Except no recall on Traverse rotors. Same fucking car! Fuck you GM. Last straw was leaky defective steering rack. Not covered under warranty. How the fuck does a steering rack go bad at 22,000 miles? I'll tell you, shit design and crappy workmanship. When the dealer listens to you complain and just nods his head and says "yup", you know your car is a piece of shit. Thank God it's gone. Feel sorry for the fuckers who have it now, although I'm sure it's been crushed by now.
All the shit you're talking isn't new. There is a post in the "cockamamie hog shot that pisses you off" thread with me ranting about how it takes a special tool to pull the oil filter on my wife's Buick. My buddy bought an escape that needed a cam (!) at 45000 mikes that ford knew about but wouldn't do a recall on. My brother in law has a year old dodge that needed injectors and a starter before 75000. Not new. Not chevy.
If you want to get really pissed drop 300 large on a Deere unit that won't go. That will make you want to club baby seals. Big thing is not just that you need a ride from work, but you also cant make money. And Deere is so proud of their shot that you get a whole year of warranty. Run some Deere stuff and and all this car business won't even register on your pissed-off-meter. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
All the shit you're talking isn't new. There is a post in the "cockamamie hog shot that pisses you off" thread with me ranting about how it takes a special tool to pull the oil filter on my wife's Buick. My buddy bought an escape that needed a cam (!) at 45000 mikes that ford knew about but wouldn't do a recall on. My brother in law has a year old dodge that needed injectors and a starter before 75000. Not new. Not chevy.
If you want to get really pissed drop 300 large on a Deere unit that won't go. That will make you want to club baby seals. Big thing is not just that you need a ride from work, but you also cant make money. And Deere is so proud of their shot that you get a whole year of warranty. Run some Deere stuff and and all this car business won't even register on your pissed-off-meter.
that sounds like Harley Davidson level of retardation.
they have, or used to have, the same or similar type warranty. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
So what we have here is a bunch of old bald dudes with goatees sitting around talking mini vans now. Am I right or am I right?
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
"Thrill" got nothing to do with it at this point.
All I'm looking for is the least ugly, most interesting of a bad lot of faceless crossovers. None of them look worth a damn. They're all overpriced because the market is insane on them. Meanwhile I could get a !@#$ing Charger hellcat for $14K under sticker because God hates parents.
But the Traverse is the least ugly, at least until the Ascent comes out. All the rest of them are minivans (Pilot), bricks (Explorer and Atlas) or designed by assholes that think nobody wants leather and a middle bench (Highlander). Or they're just riding around on an old platform and last gen tech (4-runner...Ugh, I wish Toyota would spend a little money refreshing that thing; love 'em).
The Volvo is too nice and too expensive to bother with now that it's just going to be covered in vomit for the next 18 months. And a lease until the new '19 explorer and ascent comes out doesn't get me around the whole 'eat shit on the first year value loss' thing; a 1 yr lease might as well be setting money on fire.
So I'll just push it as long as I can and see if I can fit some narrow-ass car seats in a Sonata. Or put the convertable in the front and turn the airbag off. If my vehicle is hauling children, it's just to daycare and back.
You're spot on (per usual), but I just can't bring myself to care.
Honestly what I need from a car is:
1. Needs to Run.
2. Needs to be comfortable.
3. Needs to not be a complete dog (Getting more and more difficult to find)
4. Needs to be easy to keep clean
After that, I'm just looking for value. Not necessarily the cheapest mile. I don't want to run junk but I'm not overpaying for a fucking car.
I've concluded that, yes, I'm old and boring. Accordingly, I don't care if my wife is driving the same fucking minivan-that's-not-quite-a-minivan as 30% of the rest of the parents in my shitty little town that have a reasonable income. Certainly not to the point that I want to double my cash outflow to get better.
So I'll continue to buy a couple year old functional vehicles and try to keep getting the best value I can. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Not enough cargo space behind the 2nd row. 3 kids, 3 labs.
I'm stuck with the Atlas, is the long and short of it. Or the Explorer. I could try to wait until the new Ascent comes out from Subaru; it's a sexy looking beast and Subaru is destroying in market share right now (showing growth across every segment) but those twins are coming and I don't expect the Ascent gets here before they do. Or I could hope that Ford gets the new Explorer out soon but that also seems unlikely.
May just trade my sedan in for an older SUV that I can putz around in for a year until I trade it out for something that comes along in the fall of '18. Again - fuck you Chevy. Just fuck you right in the face.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
"Thrill" got nothing to do with it at this point.
All I'm looking for is the least ugly, most interesting of a bad lot of faceless crossovers. None of them look worth a damn. They're all overpriced because the market is insane on them. Meanwhile I could get a !@#$ing Charger hellcat for $14K under sticker because God hates parents.
But the Traverse is the least ugly, at least until the Ascent comes out. All the rest of them are minivans (Pilot), bricks (Explorer and Atlas) or designed by assholes that think nobody wants leather and a middle bench (Highlander). Or they're just riding around on an old platform and last gen tech (4-runner...Ugh, I wish Toyota would spend a little money refreshing that thing; love 'em).
The Volvo is too nice and too expensive to bother with now that it's just going to be covered in vomit for the next 18 months. And a lease until the new '19 explorer and ascent comes out doesn't get me around the whole 'eat shit on the first year value loss' thing; a 1 yr lease might as well be setting money on fire.
So I'll just push it as long as I can and see if I can fit some narrow-ass car seats in a Sonata. Or put the convertable in the front and turn the airbag off. If my vehicle is hauling children, it's just to daycare and back.
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
So what we have here is a bunch of old bald dudes with goatees sitting around talking mini vans now. Am I right or am I right?
And I couldn't grow a goatee if my life depended on it.
But yes.
That all being said, I think I can slap the motor from a Durango R/T in a Durango Summit and get a pretty quick but tricked out soccer shuttle that looks mostly like a (kinda) truck and doesn't have the bland character of every other boring-ass unibody out there. Problem is that I have to order it because every single one I can find on a lot with leather and the big motor has (you guessed it) fucking captains chairs.
When the hell did minivan seats become a status symbol? What the fuck? Why is it assumed that 'nice = captains chairs'? Dicks. Every domestic manufacturer in the country is a dick. Oh well, at least Dodge gives me the option of getting a bench.
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO:
I dont know of any vehicle that would be out of warranty at 22k miles. Unless it's over 6 years old
It wasn't out of warranty, it just wasn't covered under warranty. Total bullshit. I could understand if I was taking it offroading or competing in monster truck jumping. Anyway, that piece of shit is out of my life and I have done my duty to warn others about the shitstain that is the Chevy Traverse. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Thinnin' ain't bald.
And I couldn't grow a goatee if my life depended on it.
But yes.
That all being said, I think I can slap the motor from a Durango R/T in a Durango Summit and get a pretty quick but tricked out soccer shuttle that looks mostly like a (kinda) truck and doesn't have the bland character of every other boring-ass unibody out there. Problem is that I have to order it because every single one I can find on a lot with leather and the big motor has (you guessed it) fucking captains chairs.
When the hell did minivan seats become a status symbol? What the fuck? Why is it assumed that 'nice = captains chairs'? Dicks. Every domestic manufacturer in the country is a dick. Oh well, at least Dodge gives me the option of getting a bench.
Fuck you again, Chevy. God dammit.
Wife likes the 2 middle seats because it is easier to get into the back.
I'm sure that's where it is at. This is pure speculation, but they probably face some liability for goofy fucks jumping over the seats and hurting themselves. They can't be well adjusted humans like you and I were and jump over the damn things without killing themselves. And if they do manage to sustain an injury, we can no longer trust their cunt parents not to lawyer up and sue the fuck out of Chevy.
So, they put 2 seats back there to ensure there is a "safe path" or some such nonsense to the back seat.
In short, it's probably lawyers and cunt parents you should be railing against.
Wait...Aren't you a lawyer? Nevermind. Fuck GM. :-)
Either way, I see the benefits of the 2 rear seats, but I'm right with you on having three kids, but the truth of the matter is that the entire world is built around 4 people. Cars, restaurants, fucking houses...All of it. Sorry man, but fuck the world. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ping2000:
It wasn't out of warranty, it just wasn't covered under warranty. Total bullshit. I could understand if I was taking it offroading or competing in monster truck jumping. Anyway, that piece of shit is out of my life and I have done my duty to warn others about the shitstain that is the Chevy Traverse.
soneone bullshitted you. Rack and pinion had always been covered up to 36k or 5 years iirc. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO:
soneone bullshitted you. Rack and pinion had always been covered up to 36k or 5 years iirc.
It must have been over 36K then. I have tried to blot away the memories of that vehicular pile of feces. I am also old with gray hair and a goatee. Anyway, it was a shitty car and I hope it caught fire and was in pain when it died for good. [Reply]
