Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
Who cares what PFF says with their crappy matrix of shit. We know Mahomes is the best and yesterday he proved it again.
Hopefully it fuels Mahomes' fire to keep making these people look like morons. That's the second time he has been listed #8 recently. Maybe he'll drop a 8 TD game on them soon. [Reply]
:-) Monson tried to point to the INT that the DB dropped as a play that should be marked against Mahomes, while completely glossing over the fact it was a free throw down field on an obvious offsides. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle: :-) Monson tried to point to the INT that the DB dropped as a play that should be marked against Mahomes, while completely glossing over the fact it was a free throw down field on an obvious offsides.
I don't get why people don't understand those are 100% free throws to do whatever you want with. Mahomes can do whatever he wants on those play. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle: :-) Monson tried to point to the INT that the DB dropped as a play that should be marked against Mahomes, while completely glossing over the fact it was a free throw down field on an obvious offsides.
Nah, Mahomes had two bad throws in the game. One was the defensive offsides play, but the one PFF is talking about was an attempted throw to the end zone. Noah Gray had to prevent the defender from intercepting it. Terrible throw by Mahomes. But ya know what? Josh Allen was also 100% responsible for an interception in his game as well.
The PFF guy acknowledged they were basically equal, yet he has not explained how Allen ended up with a 20 point higher grade. I want an explanation of why Davis Mills and Tom Brady were graded pretty much the same as Mahomes. It's laughable. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
It's obvious at this point that they just don't like Mahomes' style of play.
Yeah, over-analyzing risk/reward and maybe things like leaving a clean pocket, throwing across his body, etc.
Glancing through stat lines, I don't really care about Allen's score as he had a really good night... Lamar and Brady relative to Mahomes are the head scratchers, IMO. Lamar completed 56% for 214, 3 TDs, 1 INT.. sacked twice and only 17 yards on the ground.
Yeah, just throw out the algorithms and start over. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle: :-) Monson tried to point to the INT that the DB dropped as a play that should be marked against Mahomes, while completely glossing over the fact it was a free throw down field on an obvious offsides.
Also, I never get their fascination with "expected" turnovers.
Some plays you can clearly say, "Yeah, that should have been a turnover," but I'll bet not ALL of them are that clear and do require some subjectivity. So where does the line get drawn?
If I'm reading this correctly, Josh Allen's two actual picks (one of them not his fault at all and one of them kind of was) didn't dock him as much as Mahomes' one expected turnover... ON A FREAKIN OFFSIDES FREE PLAY
It's maddening. I have no idea how these choads stay in business. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Did you watch any of Tua?
Talk about being exactly what we thought they'd be. "More accurate than Mahomes" was the running joke in my house yesterday.
I watched the entire game. He made some good throws but man did he make some TERRIBLE passes in the short game. They could have had so much more offense if he could avoid short-hopping 6-yard in routes. [Reply]
They are complete retards. I don't really know any other way to say it. I watched the Cowboys and Bucs game as well and Brady looked extremely pedestrian. [Reply]
Rating all these guys ahead of Patrick reminds me of the old Buddy Ryan quote meant to be dismissive of Chris Carter when he said "All he does is catch touchdown passes." [Reply]
Saw that live. Was hilarious. Pacheco throws the ball and you immediately see Mahomes go over to grab it. I imagine the conversation when he gave it back to him was something like "Uhhh, hey rookie. You're gonna want this ball dumbass." :-) [Reply]
