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Nzoner's Game Room>***** Official '24/'25 KU Men's Basketball Repository Thread *****
cmh6476 03:08 PM 03-23-2024
The Team:

https://kuathletics.com/sports/mbball/roster/

The Schedule:

https://kuathletics.com/sports/mbball/schedule/
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KC_Connection 02:47 PM 02-18-2025
Originally Posted by BWillie:
He and Bronny will be taking the NBA by storm.
Bronny would be a much better fit at the 4 for this team.
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RaidersOftheCellar 02:59 PM 02-18-2025
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Yes.

I would replace KJ before Dickinson but Self will never do that. Perhaps Self will get angry with Hunters antics. That would be fun.

One has a much higher ceiling.

That is our only chance to actually be what we call...good.
Yeah, a team that's already somewhat offensively-challenged would obviously be better by replacing the most consistent scorer with a player who has limited offensive skills.

That would be one of the easiest teams in the country to defend.

Imagine playing a pickup game, and there's a dude on your team who's bigger than everybody else and getting triple-teamed, while still outscoring and outrebounding everybody on the court. He also passes well out of the double team.

BWillie's takeaway: "We'd have done so much better without that guy!"

Brilliant.
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KC_Connection 03:08 PM 02-18-2025
It's obvious that just removing Dickinson from the roster and replacing him with Flory or anyone else currently on it would destroy the team. The stats suggest they wouldn't even be a tournament team the last two years if he wasn't on it.

The actual argument, I think, is whether you could have better spent the $2M you're paying Dickinson on someone else and/or a collection of players that would improve this team more than he has.

Considering his production level (top 3 in college basketball) and the fact that you're still hamstrung with KJ Adams playing 35 minutes a game in any scenario, I still don't think even that really accomplishes anything. You're not finding a better player than Dickinson on the market and any group of players you get still aren't getting significant minutes as long as Self's favorites remain on the roster.
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lawrenceRaider 03:16 PM 02-18-2025
Adams and Harris seriously lower the ceiling for the team. Harris peaked (or simply had his deficiencies hidden by a very talented roster) on the title team.
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RaidersOftheCellar 03:35 PM 02-18-2025
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
It's obvious that just removing Dickinson from the roster and replacing him with Flory or anyone else currently on it would destroy the team. The stats suggest they wouldn't even be a tournament team the last two years if he wasn't on it.

The actual argument, I think, is whether you could have better spent the $2M you're paying Dickinson on someone else and/or a collection of players that would improve this team more than he has.

Considering his production level (top 3 in college basketball) and the fact that you're still hamstrung with KJ Adams playing 35 minutes a game in any scenario, I still don't think even that really accomplishes anything. You're not finding a better player than Dickinson on the market and any group of players you get still aren't getting significant minutes as long as Self's favorites remain on the roster.
Apparently it's not obvious to some.
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KC_Connection 03:38 PM 02-18-2025

Flory Bidunga's stats in his 4-game stretch as a starter (the first four starts of his career): 11 points, 9 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks, 74% FG, 29 MPG.

KJ Adams' stats in his 14-game stretch where Kansas is 7-7: 7 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, 46% FG, 29 MPG.

— Rock Chalk Blog (@RockChalkBlog) February 18, 2025


The students need to do the Flory chant again on Saturday.
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smithandrew051 04:39 PM 02-18-2025
KCC, these stats are meaningless when you don’t consider each player’s presence.
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Mr. Plow 05:27 PM 02-18-2025
Nobody (outside of maybe BWillie) is saying bench Dickinson. I think most of us are saying he's not the great player you 2 think he is. He isn't the problem on the team, but he's slow, easy to guard..... outside of his over the head cross court pass out of a double to the corner.... and he's an average defender. KJ and Harris are the problems, less so Harris, because in order to be decent Dickinson needs way better players around him than he currently has.
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Bearcat 06:01 PM 02-18-2025
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Adams and Harris seriously lower the ceiling for the team. Harris peaked (or simply had his deficiencies hidden by a very talented roster) on the title team.
Thread logic says we can't blame him for anything now.
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BWillie 07:14 PM 02-18-2025
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Nobody (outside of maybe BWillie) is saying bench Dickinson. I think most of us are saying he's not the great player you 2 think he is. He isn't the problem on the team, but he's slow, easy to guard..... outside of his over the head cross court pass out of a double to the corner.... and he's an average defender. KJ and Harris are the problems, less so Harris, because in order to be decent Dickinson needs way better players around him than he currently has.
Harris with enough shooting is not a problem. Harris, KJ and Hunter is criminal. Its why we've been bad for two seasons. Harris is one of our better scorers on this team, though. Which is hilariously sad.

Dickinson is just not a winning basketball player. Some guys arent. They are stat chasers and analytics cannot properly account for them. If you watch KU bball and come away thinking Hunter Dickinson is the thing that could make us a championship contender or not I wonder if your eyes work. The player this team can most ill afford to lose is probably Mayo. Then it's probably Harris even though it should be Bidunga but he's not allowed to play enough to matter as much aa he should. Then down the list would be Dickinson.
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smithandrew051 08:01 PM 02-18-2025
Dajuan Mayo KJ Flory Dickinson

Odd starting lineup
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BWillie 08:03 PM 02-18-2025
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
Dajuan Mayo KJ Flory Dickinson

Odd starting lineup
Dear god
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smithandrew051 08:09 PM 02-18-2025
“KJ is a problem because he can’t shoot, let’s move him to the perimeter”
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George Liquor 08:12 PM 02-18-2025
Dajaun already laying bricks
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Mr. Plow 08:12 PM 02-18-2025
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
Dajuan Mayo KJ Flory Dickinson

Odd starting lineup
Terrible
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