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Nzoner's Game Room>****The Clyde Edwards-Helaire Thread*****
Dante84 10:09 PM 04-23-2020
More to come! (I'll clean it up later - info dump into the OP)

(mod edit, all the goodness is in the spoiler tags)
Spoiler!

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Hammock Parties 04:28 PM 11-10-2021
You disagree? Why such a wild disparity in his YPC, then? The same was true last season.

It is a fantasy to say he can be a 5 YPC guy.
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ToxSocks 04:29 PM 11-10-2021
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
All that can really be said to his defenders right now is, show me

Whole lotta talk about how he's been unfairly badmouthed, well he'll be back in the rotation soon, so... show me

Actually do WANT to be wrong about him, we'll see...
What would you like to see?

He's averaging 4.7 YPC and has two 100+ yard games out of 5.

Considering he's gotten 15+ Carries (17) ONCE this season, im not sure what you expect with such limited opportunities. Even in his limited roll, he was producing.
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ToxSocks 04:32 PM 11-10-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
You disagree? Why such a wild disparity in his YPC, then? The same was true last season.

It is a fantasy to say he can be a 5 YPC guy.
Through 18 career games he has a 4.5 YPC.

The only fantasy is thinking you have solid football takes.
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RaidersOftheCellar 04:33 PM 11-10-2021
I'm thinking that CEH is a little undervalued.

Is it pure coincidence that this offense transformed from arguably the best in the league into a very mediocre offense immediately after he went down?
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ToxSocks 04:34 PM 11-10-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Why such a wild disparity in his YPC, then? The same was true last season.
Because he's a fucking RB, do you even football? Holy mother of christ.

Here's Henry's YPC's this season:

3.4
5.2
4.04
4.76
4.48
7.15
2.97
2.43

It's all over the goddamn place, lol. That's pretty damn normal. From 2.43 to 7.15.
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ToxSocks 04:36 PM 11-10-2021
Jonathon Taylor, everyone's girl who got away:

High: 10.36

Low: 3.29
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ToxSocks 04:37 PM 11-10-2021
Nick Chubb:

High: 9.79

Low: 3.81
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Easy 6 04:39 PM 11-10-2021
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
What would you like to see?

He's averaging 4.7 YPC and has two 100+ yard games out of 5.

Considering he's gotten 15+ Carries (17) ONCE this season, im not sure what you expect with such limited opportunities. Even in his limited roll, he was producing.
How about...

1) Better consistency
2) Prove to be effective in the pass game
3) Display the vision needed to exploit the cavernous holes this line opens

Speaking of limited opportunities, its a fair question to ask WHY his opps are so limited... is Reid carelessly ignoring Clydes pass game prowess? Maybe, but its also perfectly reasonable to assume he isn't displaying the necessary traits in practice
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ptlyon 04:39 PM 11-10-2021
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Because he's a ****ing RB, do you even football? Holy mother of christ.
His sources brah
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ToxSocks 04:40 PM 11-10-2021
Do more, Detoxing, do more!

Ok, sure.

Joe Mixon:

High: 5.22

Low: 2.36
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Hammock Parties 04:40 PM 11-10-2021
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Jonathon Taylor, everyone's girl who got away:

High: 10.36

Low: 3.29
Kind of my point.

Clyde will never have a 10 YPC game.

His last game was 1.86 YPC though. Gross.
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ToxSocks 04:41 PM 11-10-2021
That's your top 4 RB's in the league right now, GoChiefs.

I hope you've learned something.

Or do you wanna argue that the top 4 RB's in the league suck because they have certain games that they go off, and certain games that they don't?
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ToxSocks 04:44 PM 11-10-2021
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
How about...

1) Better consistency
2) Prove to be effective in the pass game
3) Display the vision needed to exploit the cavernous holes this line opens

Speaking of limited opportunities, its a fair question to ask WHY his opps are so limited... is Reid carelessly ignoring Clydes pass game prowess? Maybe, but its also perfectly reasonable to assume he isn't displaying the necessary traits in practice
Reid has never used RB's at a high volume. Even when he had JC.

The fact is that CEH is getting MAYBE 15 touches a game and then everyone is asking why he doesn't produce like Henry, Mixon, Chubb and all these other high volume backs.

Even though his YPC is right in line with all of these top backs.

The reason for that is simple. Bad arguments, fake narratives due to frustration and overall poor analysis. GoChiefs level analysis.
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ToxSocks 04:46 PM 11-10-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Kind of my point.

Clyde will never have a 10 YPC game.

His last game was 1.86 YPC though. Gross.
No, it isn't your point. Your point is that his YPC through 18 games shouldn't count because there's a few games he goes off and few games he doesn't.

That's your argument. And that's a stupid one. Because as i've pointed it, such is the nature of that position in the NFL.

It's kinda like the Chris Jones dumbass arguments.

"Well he doesn't get sacks every week therefore he sucks. We should cut him".

It's just...poorly thought out arguments.
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Pitt Gorilla 04:50 PM 11-10-2021
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Reid has never used RB's at a high volume. Even when he had JC.

The fact is that CEH is getting MAYBE 15 touches a game and then everyone is asking why he doesn't produce like Henry, Mixon, Chubb and all these other high volume backs.

Even though his YPC is right in line with all of these top backs.

The reason for that is simple. Bad arguments, fake narratives due to frustration and overall poor analysis. GoChiefs level analysis.
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