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KcMizzou 08:18 PM 07-08-2010
Excited about an upcoming fight? Want to make predictions, or just give people a heads-up that there are some fights on? We can do it here.

(Also a good place to complain, dicuss, and agrue about the outcomes)
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raybec 4 04:39 PM 06-11-2014
I don't think a lot of judges understand the sport, but that was just a home town giveaway.
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alnorth 05:28 PM 06-11-2014
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
Chael out of UFC 175 for failing a test for the same drug Robert Mathis had in his system. Not sure how to feel about this considering the TRT ban Nevada has issued. They're moving the goal posts on these guys.
eh, I have no sympathy for those TRT guys. I read about Chael's complaints, and he's got an argument, and it is kinda tough for him, but ya know what... even though TRT was legal at the time he was using, no one liked it including most fighters, so screw 'em. If it takes him another year or so to get his system back to normal, thats his problem, he shouldn't have been taking it in the first place.
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BigCatDaddy 05:37 PM 06-11-2014
Originally Posted by alnorth:
eh, I have no sympathy for those TRT guys. I read about Chael's complaints, and he's got an argument, and it is kinda tough for him, but ya know what... even though TRT was legal at the time he was using, no one liked it including most fighters, so screw 'em. If it takes him another year or so to get his system back to normal, thats his problem, he shouldn't have been taking it in the first place.
The problem is systems dont usually go back to normal.
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alnorth 05:38 PM 06-11-2014
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
The problem is systems dont usually go back to normal.
yep, a side effect of TRT is that your body might not make much testosterone naturally if you stop.

If those fighters are all pretty much screwed now, I'm fine with it.
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BigCatDaddy 05:41 PM 06-11-2014
Originally Posted by alnorth:
yep, a side effect of TRT is that your body might not make much testosterone naturally if you stop.

If those fighters are all pretty much screwed now, I'm fine with it.
Why? They could have made made a mistake as a 18 year old and jacked up their HPTA for life. If they keep total T within a set of guidelines I dont see the problem.
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alnorth 06:18 PM 06-11-2014
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Why? They could have made made a mistake as a 18 year old and jacked up their HPTA for life. If they keep total T within a set of guidelines I dont see the problem.
Don't care. The benefit of a blanket ban is it removes all questions, all suspicions, all accusations. If you want to fight, don't do TRT. If you are one of the ultra-rare people who really are born with a medical need for replacement therapy, well thats just too bad, you weren't born to fight just like guys who are born without legs or arms.
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alnorth 06:20 PM 06-11-2014
Breaking News: Sonnen has announced his retirement.
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SAUTO 06:26 PM 06-11-2014
Originally Posted by alnorth:
Breaking News: Sonnen has announced his retirement.
Lol.
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Sorter 06:31 PM 06-11-2014
Originally Posted by alnorth:
Breaking News: Sonnen has announced his retirement.

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alnorth 07:01 PM 06-11-2014
I won't mind him as a commentator, I don't hate the guy, but if he can't fight anymore then he shouldn't try.
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SAUTO 07:04 PM 06-11-2014
He should probably shut the fuck up too.
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raybec 4 07:10 PM 06-11-2014
He's a dirtbag for sure. But he's an entertaining commentator
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Sorter 07:15 PM 06-11-2014
I like Chael but I really can't understand why he'd choose to take something knowing his standing with the UFC and ACs.


The drug testing is gearing towards Olympic/World standards. This is simply stupidity on Chael's behalf.
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BigCatDaddy 07:19 PM 06-11-2014
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO:
He should probably shut the **** up too.
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It's all marketing. I think he is a pretty good dude when you see the real Chael. It's like hating a pro wrestler for the way he acts has a TV character.
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Pants 07:37 PM 06-11-2014
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
It's all marketing. I think he is a pretty good dude when you see the real Chael. It's like hating a pro wrestler for the way he acts has a TV character.
Yeah, he's actually a really cool, level headed dude. He's a salesman through and through and knew exactly what he was doing with his antics.
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