Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
We attempted more mid and long range passes against Pitt and Houston than we did against SD when Humphries played 85% of the game.
All these narratives that Thuney hurt the long passing game, caused a smaller playbook and hurt the run game are all bunk not supported by the actual stats.
No one said he hurt it. The clearly had lower time to throw. Not depth of target. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I've watched those games more than once. The play calling was obviously different.
Sure, but it corresponded with a healthy Hollywood and the natural expansion of Worthy's use. Which has to factor in. Not to mention the teams we faced. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Shields68:
Sure, but it corresponded with a healthy Hollywood and the natural expansion of Worthy's use. Which has to factor in. Not to mention the teams we faced.
It also corresponds with a guard at tackle. I have no issue with thuney starting but let’s not act like sticking with him changed the facts. [Reply]
Honestly surprised. Figured they'd at least give Humphries a go of it.
But yeah, trust in Reid. If he didn't feel it was worth a try with Humphries after all the practice they have had - it's got to be for good reason. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Shields68:
Sure, but it corresponded with a healthy Hollywood and the natural expansion of Worthy's use. Which has to factor in. Not to mention the teams we faced.
It absolutely factors in when you watch the routes they ran and the drops they took to get the ball out.
It's moot at this point, looks like Thuney is going to start. Onwards and upwards. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
It also corresponds with a guard at tackle. I have no issue with thuney starting but let’s not act like sticking with him changed the facts.
My comment was, I do not see the change being 100% on Thuney. I think who ever played tackle would have had the same offense. Brown helps them run a quick passing attack offense. He is able to do things Watson is not able to do. Worthy also has been progressing. I think they are going to turn both of them loose in the playoffs and catch a lot of teams by surprise. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Shields68:
My comment was, I do not see the change being 100% on Thuney. I think who ever played tackle would have had the same offense. Brown helps them run a quick passing attack offense. He is able to do things Watson is not able to do. Worthy also has been progressing. I think they are going to turn both of them loose in the playoffs and catch a lot of teams by surprise.
Dude, we watched like 13 games before Thuney took over. Sure, it wasn't the only thing that changed but there was a massive shift in philosophy the minute Thuney moved. They were doing things for him that they didn't really even attempt with the other guys.
The difference is plainly visible when watching the games. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It absolutely factors in when you watch the routes they ran and the drops they took to get the ball out.
It's moot at this point, looks like Thuney is going to start. Onwards and upwards.
Thuney did a good job against some top flight DE's. He did not get beat by speed. Which was killing us prior to him going to LT. He did get over powered a few times. But even then Patrick had time to get the ball out, it was never the oh shit I totally mised .5 second sack. Which I do not think Humphries is moving at 100% and did allow in Denver game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Dude, we watched like 13 games before Thuney took over. Sure, it wasn't the only thing that changed but there was a massive shift in philosophy the minute Thuney moved. They were doing things for him that they didn't really even attempt with the other guys.
The difference is plainly visible when watching the games.
It also coincided with getting a player back which allowed those "new" things to be effective and starting to turn Worthy loose (which is about the same time they turned Rice loose last year) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Shields68:
It also coincided with getting a player back which allowed those "new" things to be effective and starting to turn Worthy loose (which is about the same time they turned Rice loose last year)
You're right. Many things contributed. But the fact they did different things for Thuney is a fact. [Reply]