Originally Posted by staylor26:
I see CP's own Black Panther is still fuming that a white woman is the face of the WNBA and women's basketball in general.
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
If she's turning it over three or four times here and there that's one thing. But she averages eight a game and it's growing. She's already broken the turnover records and that too is growing. And yes they are winning now but my point is it will hurt her team in the playoffs like it hurt Iowa in both of the finals they lost.
Anyway on another note Angel Reese got 17 points and 19 rebounds today. Just incredible consistency.
You are truly a dolt...
On those finals...
Iowa wouldn't have been close to the finals without Clark. She was most likely the only player from Iowa in the top 6 of those finals.
Watch the LSU game again, the officiating was absolutely horrid and one sided against Iowa. It was literally trending and being discussed by nearly every media outlet after the clear bias by the officials. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
If she's turning it over three or four times here and there that's one thing. But she averages eight a game and it's growing. She's already broken the turnover records and that too is growing. And yes they are winning now but my point is it will hurt her team in the playoffs like it hurt Iowa in both of the finals they lost.
Anyway on another note Angel Reese got 17 points and 19 rebounds today. Just incredible consistency.
She averages 5.5 TO per game and it is not growing. If you're going to hate on Caitlyn Clark, at least have your stats correct. 5.5 TO per game is not out of this world or even unexpected for a player that handles the ball as much as she does and plays with women who are having to adjust their game to expecting passes from her that they weren't seeing before. [Reply]
Originally Posted by LoneWolf:
She averages 5.5 TO per game and it is not growing. If you're going to hate on Caitlyn Clark, at least have your stats correct. 5.5 TO per game is not out of this world or even unexpected for a player that handles the ball as much as she does and plays with women who are having to adjust their game to expecting passes from her that they weren't seeing before.
a huge reason for the Fevers success is because she pushes the pace and makes aggressive passes. They are not built to be a half court offense with or without her on the floor. So that style of play is easily the biggest reason they are successful. It's like telling mahomes to check the ball down on every play because it's safer.
She needs to work on some of the unforced errors. That will come with a full off-season and hitting the gym. But you are happy to accept many of those turnovers because more often than not it creates opportunities for easier scores. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I see CP's own Black Panther is still fuming that a white woman is the face of the WNBA and women's basketball in general.
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
You are truly a dolt...
On those finals...
Iowa wouldn't have been close to the finals without Clark. She was most likely the only player from Iowa in the top 6 of those finals.
Watch the LSU game again, the officiating was absolutely horrid and one sided against Iowa. It was literally trending and being discussed by nearly every media outlet after the clear bias by the officials.
She was fouling like crazy against LSU so please let's not make excuses for the blowout loss. [Reply]
Originally Posted by LoneWolf:
She averages 5.5 TO per game and it is not growing. If you're going to hate on Caitlyn Clark, at least have your stats correct. 5.5 TO per game is not out of this world or even unexpected for a player that handles the ball as much as she does and plays with women who are having to adjust their game to expecting passes from her that they weren't seeing before.
She's breaking turnover records right now and many of her turnovers are from her getting stripped one on one and allowing that player to get an easy bucket. But If you think that deficiency in her game is cool then OK dude :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
You are truly a dolt...
On those finals...
Iowa wouldn't have been close to the finals without Clark. She was most likely the only player from Iowa in the top 6 of those finals.
Watch the LSU game again, the officiating was absolutely horrid and one sided against Iowa. It was literally trending and being discussed by nearly every media outlet after the clear bias by the officials.
biggest thing was that she was up against a super team. I know Iowa fans are loyal to their players but they were simply no match for a recruiting powerhouse like south Carolina. Everyone knew it was Caitlin against the world. Her teammates were receivers, not shot creators. Her bigs were majorly outmatched.
She doesn't have to press nearly as much anymore. Apart from her working on her game, credit the coach for turning the team around. They can run more motion instead of iso, can pick and roll and now make the extra pass to beat the blitz, and Kelsey Mitchell can create shots unassisted. All of these were great adaptations that have helped unstick Clark. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
She's breaking turnover records right now and many of her turnovers are from her getting stripped one on one and allowing that player to get an easy bucket. But If you think that deficiency in her game is cool then OK dude :-)
Angel Reese is averaging 3+ turnovers since the Olympics and over 5 in the last 3 games. For a player who gets a fraction of the same touches and is not generally a passer. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
If she's turning it over three or four times here and there that's one thing. But she averages eight a game and it's growing. She's already broken the turnover records and that too is growing. And yes they are winning now but my point is it will hurt her team in the playoffs like it hurt Iowa in both of the finals they lost.
Anyway on another note Angel Reese got 17 points and 19 rebounds today. Just incredible consistency.
8 a game? Wtf kind of meth you hitting buddy? [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
She cannot catch the ball for her teammates.
Turnovers are over rated as **** too.
Clark averages 5.5 turnovers a game this season and has girls that can't catch passes.
LeBron James had two seasons in which he had over 4 turnovers per game.
Magic Johnson averaged 3.9 turnovers per game for his career.
Luka Doncic averages 4.0 turnovers per game for his career and has had as high as 4.5 turnovers per game in a season.
James Harden had a seasons of 5.7, 5.0, and 4.8 turnovers per game. The year he had 5.7 tpg is the year he was runner up for MVP.
These men would have much higher turnover rates playing in the WNBA.
The argument that her turnovers are some big huge negative is ****ing stupid when she can put up 23+ ppg, 10+ apg, and 5+ rpg a night.
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
Lol I've already explained that Chicago are shorthanded. They traded away their best shooter and their best playmaker (Carter) is currently Injured. Couple that with Cardoso missing most of camp and missing games at the start of the season, plus having a ROOKIE HEAD COACH. This is a totally new organisation that doesn't compare to the previous teams at all.
Clark, or "the turnover queen" as some are now calling her, has a massive 181 turnovers this season which is 63 more than the player in second place and the worst in wnba history already. She stands on the verge of hitting a monumental number ya'll...TWO HUNDRED TURNOVERS which would shatter all records and has never been done before. And with fourteen games to go in the regular season, I think she obliterates the record books and may hit the 250 to 260 mark. We'll see. Combine that with the playoffs and it could really be off the charts. [Reply]
