Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.
Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.
Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.
The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.
Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.
If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.
There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.
Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.
Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.
Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).
If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.
Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."
Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.
Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.
There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.
Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.
It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.
Originally Posted by Coach:
Yes, I do admit that I am a KSU fan, but even when I DO put my homerism on the side, I'm just not so sure that Missouri will be able to be competitive against Alabama.
Yes, I am aware that Missouri had a lead over then #1 Oklahoma, but honestly, I think comparing Oklahoma to Alabama is apples and oranges. It's my opinion that Alabama is much much better team than Oklahoma is.
But then again, I guess that's why we play the games, eh? Either way, if Missouri fans are content on going to SEC and get SEC $ and whatever else, and at the same time, probably be a doormat for the SEC (like Vandy), well, more power to them.
Originally Posted by DeezNutz:
I believe that most MU fans expect to be Arkansas-like. Basically, a solid program and one that is consistently in the top 25. That's where Mizzou should be, regardless of conference affiliation.
Well, good luck with that, IMHO, especially facing LSU and Alabama to name a few. I just have my doubts that MU will be that type of a level. I think MU can be a solid program and consistently in the top 25 in the Big XII, than in the SEC. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
It doesn't mean more to your average KU fan than it does to me personally. I live in Kansas, 40 minutes from Lawrence. I deal with beakers on a daily basis. The same isn't true of people in St. Louis. It's still a big rivalry, but it doesn't feel the same when you're 5 hours away from the other state.
I guess I could see that for an MU fan in St. Louis, who might end up hating Illinois more or whatever... but, for anyone who went to either school, I don't think it really goes away just because you live in St. Louis and not KC.
Like I said, the whole "who cares more" thing is about superiority.... KU FB would cling onto beating Mizzou, but KU BB just wants to escape Columbia with a victory. And it's the opposite for MU. I've lived with MU fans, and of course they're everywhere around KC, but it doesn't mean I really care about the rivalry.
If MU goes to the SEC, of course they aren't going to miss playing KU in football every season, and I don't see why they would want to schedule an out of conference rival when the SEC is already going to be brutal. And I don't think KU would miss MU in BB, which is probably one reason Self said they won't go out of their way to schedule them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC:
Its funny to see all the butt hurt KU fans here.. so now were are down to posting pictures of peoples empty stadiums and talking attendace smack.
Jesus. MU is doing the right thing... Bailing on a failing conference is the RIGHT thing to do.
I am envy of MU and the SEC... Nothing the Big 12 does now will make a shit difference. It appears its a sinking ship full of junk.
Actually, they are down to posting pictures of people's stadiums with a shit load of fans in them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC:
Its funny to see all the butt hurt KU fans here.. so now were are down to posting pictures of peoples empty stadiums and talking attendace smack.
Jesus. MU is doing the right thing... Bailing on a failing conference is the RIGHT thing to do.
I am envy of MU and the SEC... Nothing the Big 12 does now will make a shit difference. It appears its a sinking ship full of junk.
Thanks, wish more of them could take the blinders off and see reality. [Reply]
Apparently you don't agree. Well, let me help you here. Instead of just using one liners, which you have been doing a lot these days, how about presenting your case. Words. Use them. Helpful ones at that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC:
Its funny to see all the butt hurt KU fans here.. so now were are down to posting pictures of peoples empty stadiums and talking attendace smack.
Jesus. MU is doing the right thing... Bailing on a failing conference is the RIGHT thing to do.
I am envy of MU and the SEC... Nothing the Big 12 does now will make a shit difference. It appears its a sinking ship full of junk.
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
I guess I could see that for an MU fan in St. Louis, who might end up hating Illinois more or whatever... but, for anyone who went to either school, I don't think it really goes away just because you live in St. Louis and not KC.
Like I said, the whole "who cares more" thing is about superiority.... KU FB would cling onto beating Mizzou, but KU BB just wants to escape Columbia with a victory. And it's the opposite for MU. I've lived with MU fans, and of course they're everywhere around KC, but it doesn't mean I really care about the rivalry.
If MU goes to the SEC, of course they aren't going to miss playing KU in football every season, and I don't see why they would want to schedule an out of conference rival when the SEC is already going to be brutal. And I don't think KU would miss MU in BB, which is probably one reason Self said they won't go out of their way to schedule them.
It doesn't go away at all, but it's not as intense when you don't have to go to work the next day with fans of the other team. That's just human nature.
As far as the conference schedule being brutal in the SEC, that's why Mizzou would want to play a non-con against KU. We could use a cupcake to fatten ourselves up.
Truthfully, the KU/MU game would be the biggest game of the year for Kansas football. It would be about the 5th biggest for Mizzou football. [Reply]
Originally Posted by |Zach|:
Actually, they are down to posting pictures of people's stadiums with a shit load of fans in them.
Either/Or...
KU fans should be pissed and jealous of MU now... IF you guys bail, we will still be here with Texas's dick in our hands asking them if they would like us to cup the ball sack as well... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Coach:
Apparently you don't agree. Well, let me help you here. Instead of just using one liners, how about presenting your case. Words. Use them. Helpful ones at that.
You went from you don't think they can compete with Alabama...then jumped to they will be a doormat.
In recent years they beat Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl. Beat Ol Miss in Oxford. They are 5-1 recently against SEC teams.
Missouri isn't a stranger to big time football. Will it be harder? Yes. Will they be a doormat? lol. [Reply]
