Read the books, comics, etc. No war after Jakku.

Not the FO. Just Snoke. FO doesn't appear until the start of TFA. There's no large-scale galactic war until TFA. Peace.

No proof of this. No First Order presence on any of the planets in the movies when we initially get there. It appears they are trying to seize power, but they haven't quite pulled it off yet. They are an invading force without a seat of power. Our heroes have risen to the occasion once again.

I'm talking about Luke, Han and Leia.

They've been very heroic in this new trilogy. You want to call them losers. They don't feel like that at all to me.
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Leia & Han: Divorced, apart, spawned a son that kill Jedi and billions in the galaxy.

Han: Scavenger, lost and lonely.

Leia: Still fighting a war 30 years later.

Luke: Lonely, old, isolated, betrayed by his nephew, living as a monk.

I wouldn't say that any of those people led successful lives, let alone, led lives indicative of the fairy tale ending of Return of the Jedi.
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Don't forget Leia is a novice Force User. While supposedly has the same aptitude as Luke per Yoda
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Me, after reading the entirety of this thread post movie release -


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I'm sorry we couldn't have a movie with them sitting around having tea and tickling their son.

You want Star Wars Episode VII: FULL HOUSE
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Good god.

:-)

There are a million different ways that the trilogy sequel could have gone without destroying the idea of Han, Luke and Leia being heroes that saved the galaxy that lived successful and fruitful lives.
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I've never been part of a discussion, in which I've participated to this extent, while absolutely hating the topic of discussion.

This is a new one, even for me.

My dislike of this film grows with each post.
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It will end with the first order destroyed and freedom in the galaxy. It's not been all unicorns and rainbows. It has been a shit life for the originals. None got to have a happy ending.
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Even The Royals, post Cueto trade?
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As much as I hated the Cueto trade, my dislike of this film far exceeds my dislike of the Cueto trade.

Hey, at least the Royals won.

Han, Luke and Leia all lost.
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Dude, yes. Whenever you're pissed off, I'm going to start asking where things land on the Cueto-TLJ scale.
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:-)

Perfection!

Happy New Year, Brotha!
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What a dumb take. It's like you know nothing about anything.

A more sensible explanation is that there was a huge, historic, anticipation for TFA with the return of OT characters after 30+ years. And people saw Han die, 2 seconds of Luke, and a re-hash of Ep. IV. It turned people off, many of whom decided they had outgrown this Star Wars thing and/or decided the whole thing just wasn't that good anymore.

And don't dismiss Rogue One. What was the box office on that? If they are going to put out a movie every year, its going to likely dilute the build-up and excitement of each new one. Star Wars movies aren't rare events any more.

Did Empire do as well as Star Wars? I guess it sucked and killed the franchise.
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Mr. Mult strikes again. Or is that Ms.?

Or, the word of mouth for Episode VIII is so bad that people have stayed away and have refused to see it more than once.

Rogue One wasn't initially expected to do more than about $500 million worldwide. Disney had very low expectations for a "Star Wars Story".

It ended up with $1.056 billion and sold a shit ton of BluRay/DVD/Digital Copies. It also increased the expectations of what a Star Wars Story is supposed to be and it's box office receipts.

Or did you miss the part about KK firing the initial directors after all but 10 pages were completed, hired Oscar Winner Ron Howard, recast a few roles, added a few scenes and did a Page One Re-Shoot?

You're a buttfucking moron and apparently, that includes every subject, not just your nonsense in the DC (and your various mults, which have been confirmed to me by the Mods).
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You HATE it.

And you saw it TWICE. :-)
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