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Nzoner's Game Room>Let’s talk about the Texans
Best22 03:51 PM 12-15-2024
They are good and tough, noon game at Arrowhead. Your thoughts?
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BlackOp 04:08 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Just as hard to accomplish as Mahomes trying to win a Super Bowl again on an injured ankle/one leg?
Why are you worried...he's already proven he can do it.
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FloridaMan88 04:11 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Why are you worried...he's already proven he can do it.
To answer your question…

Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The exception, not the rule.

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DJ's left nut 04:12 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Assuming if he does re-injure it, it wouldn’t be severe enough where he could return in three weeks for the playoffs.
Yeah.

Any injury likely to hurt him badly enough to miss playoff games is an injury that would've happened to a healthy ankle.

I think we kinda underestimate how fucked up that ankle was in 2022. This looked much more benign than that one did and he played through it.

I don't see a sit/start decision at being terribly critical either way, to be honest. Start him and we'll score 23 points via the worlds ugliest offense. Start him and we'll probably do the exact same thing. Maybe we score 19 again somehow.

Start him and his ankle will hurt and be stiff against Pittsburgh on Christmas -- sit him and it's gonna be the same.

I just can't bring myself to care a great deal either way.
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wachashi 04:15 PM 12-16-2024
Per PFF, the Texans grade well on pass rush and pass coverage. They're 17th in run defense grade.

The Browns currently have the highest run defense grade.
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htismaqe 04:16 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
To answer your question…
You do know that winning 3 playoff games to make the Super Bowl is also the exception, not the rule, right? And you know that the sample size is infinitely larger than one or two seasons for one team?

Getting the 1 seed is vitally important. All of the evidence supports it.
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DJ's left nut 04:17 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by wachashi:
Per PFF, the Texans grade well on pass rush and pass coverage. They're 17th in run defense grade.

The Browns currently have the highest run defense grade.
The Chiefs face nothing but pretty nasty pass rushes to close out the season.

The OL isn't gonna get any breaks until, ironically, a possible post-season matchup.

Texas, Pittsburgh and Denver all have rushes (or individual rushers) that are just tough to deal with.
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FloridaMan88 04:17 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah.

Any injury likely to hurt him badly enough to miss playoff games is an injury that would've happened to a healthy ankle.

I think we kinda underestimate how ****ed up that ankle was in 2022. This looked much more benign than that one did and he played through it.

I don't see a sit/start decision at being terribly critical either way, to be honest. Start him and we'll score 23 points via the worlds ugliest offense. Start him and we'll probably do the exact same thing. Maybe we score 19 again somehow.

Start him and his ankle will hurt and be stiff against Pittsburgh on Christmas -- sit him and it's gonna be the same.

I just can't bring myself to care a great deal either way.
The concern is how much does the ankle limit his ability to scramble and avoid sacks/hits.

Because two years ago he had the benefit of playing behind a better offensive line than he does now.
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htismaqe 04:17 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The Chiefs face nothing but pretty nasty pass rushes to close out the season.

The OL isn't gonna get any breaks until, ironically, a possible post-season matchup.

Texas, Pittsburgh and Denver all have rushes (or individual rushers) that are just tough to deal with.
They will get an automatic break if they win the next two games.
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htismaqe 04:18 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
The concern is how much does the ankle limit his ability to scramble and avoid sacks/hits.

Because two years ago he had the benefit of playing behind a better offensive line than he does now.
Well, the criticism all year is that he's facing instant pressure. Healthy or not, he isn't avoiding those. Honestly, being stuck in the pocket might HELP him.
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mr. tegu 04:19 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Just as hard to accomplish as Mahomes trying to win a Super Bowl again on an injured ankle/one leg?

Given the offensive performances of the two playoff runs, the 2022 win was far more likely than the 2023 win.
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DJ's left nut 04:20 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
The concern is how much does the ankle limit his ability to scramble and avoid sacks/hits.

Because two years ago he had the benefit of playing behind a better offensive line than he does now.
If it convinces him to sit at the back of his drop and run the offense a bit more, it's not the worst thing that could happen.

Hell, even if it means he just throws more balls away, it can't be much uglier than it's been.

I just can't see the offense getting uglier at this point, honestly.
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crispystl 04:21 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
The Chiefs looked like a team yesterday that showed up with a bad gameplan, playing a noon game on the road against a bad team in between a division rivalry matchup and a home game against a young hotshot contender, playing the first game of a 3-games-in-11 days stretch, after not having a bye since week 5, after winning back-to-back Super bowls and playing all the extra games that come with that.

Read: They looked exhausted.

They need a spark. They need to dial in the game plan. We’ve seen it before.

And yes, Mahomes needs to play better. Al the pressure is in his head a bit. And I don’t think he throws the ball well in wet conditions.
Yeah that could be. It must be because he has small hands. He plays well in the cold, but that's more about velocity. Brock Purdy throws the worst wet ball ever, and I just assumed it's because he has tiny hands?
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RaidersOftheCellar 04:22 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah.

Any injury likely to hurt him badly enough to miss playoff games is an injury that would've happened to a healthy ankle.

I think we kinda underestimate how fucked up that ankle was in 2022. This looked much more benign than that one did and he played through it.

I don't see a sit/start decision at being terribly critical either way, to be honest. Start him and we'll score 23 points via the worlds ugliest offense. Start him and we'll probably do the exact same thing. Maybe we score 19 again somehow.

Start him and his ankle will hurt and be stiff against Pittsburgh on Christmas -- sit him and it's gonna be the same.

I just can't bring myself to care a great deal either way.
It's weird to suddenly see so much apathy regarding the 1 seed.

It's massively important under any circumstances, but especially for this team.
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htismaqe 04:23 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
It's weird to suddenly see so much apathy regarding the 1 seed.

It's massively important under any circumstances, but especially for this team.
It isn't apathy. It's fear.
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crispystl 04:24 PM 12-16-2024
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Last I saw, the Texans were 2.5 pt favorites. Everyone should be hammering KC +2.5 because Mahomes is definitely playing.
Already did lol
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