Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
I would love to see the link to that, but since the Red Raiders never huddled I am not sure how he would have ever been calling plays like that. I know he made adjustments at the LOS.
Here it is:
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"Probably 'Green Rug Rock Pop 2 East Bill Log 95 Z Post B Will." Pop is play action, and the formation is Green Rug Rock—that's the backs behind me. Rug means that the B back [second running back] is on the line of scrimmage. We have our 'Y' receiver in the game, and our 'Z' receiver, and the H-back is out [away from the formation]. 'Pop 2 East Bill Log' means that we're going to fake our outside zone to the right, with the B-back blocking in front. We're going to fake that. 'Log' means the backside tackle is going to lock on the [backside defensive] end, and '95' is our concept of the play. We tag a Z Post [the 'Z' receiver running a post route], and for the B-back, we tag a 'Will.' [the second running back blocking the weak-side linebacker]."
Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes calling plays in the huddle, making steady progress
The process of turning Patrick Mahomes II into an NFL-ready quarterback could be a long one. AP Photo/Charlie Riedel
10:04 AM CT
Adam Teicher
ESPN Staff Writer
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The Kansas City Chiefs started in a place so basic with rookie quarterback Patrick Mahomes II when he arrived as their first-round draft pick that they had to teach him how to call plays in the huddle.
That was a new experience for Mahomes, who wasn’t asked to relay the playcall to teammates in college at Texas Tech. At first, even that didn’t go well.
“Day 1, when he got here, he was yelling the play out so loud in the huddle that the whole defense could hear him," said Matt Nagy, the Chiefs’ quarterbacks coach and co-offensive coordinator. “They could hear the play call, too.
“Now he knows to get in the huddle, be calm and speak only to the people he’s supposed to be talking to."
The Chiefs will take progress where they can get it. That’s a victory when it comes to their rookie quarterback, and there have been others.
But the process of turning him into an NFL-ready player is a long one, and the Chiefs and Mahomes are still in the early stages. Mahomes remains the third quarterback into the lineup in practice behind starter Alex Smith and Tyler Bray, and that doesn’t figure to change anytime soon.
Mahomes is frequently the last player off the field after practice. He generally stays late to work on his footwork. The Chiefs are trying to cram in as much with Mahomes as they can before the end of offseason practice next week.
Nagy indicated the work with Mahomes is showing, and not just when it comes to calling plays in the huddle. He said the Chiefs are encouraged because they’re not seeing the same mistakes twice from Mahomes.
The first pass of Mahomes’ first two-minute drill last week resulted in an interception when he was trying to unload the ball out of bounds on a play that was broken. He underestimated the ability of linebacker Reshard Cliett, who tipped the ball into the air and caught it.
Mahomes hasn’t made that mistake again.
“He’s able to see the play," Nagy said. “He can go into the huddle, call the play with confidence, visualize it. He identifies the [middle] linebacker, tries to work with the protections. We’re still not yet at the part where he sees the defense and understands where they’re coming from. It’s still a little fast, but it’s coming."
The lessons will come even faster for Mahomes at training camp when it begins next month. The Chiefs will be able to practice in pads for the first time and move at a much faster pace than in the offseason.
“Right now, we’re doing a lot of stuff," Nagy said. “He knew nothing about the offense at first. He went from basic plays, but it was very fast for him. Now he knows the offense, but we’re doing a lot. At training camp, we’ll get back to that part where things are basic again and he’s going to know the offense and the things he’s supposed to do, so we can let his talent go a little bit."
Mahomes said last week that he didn’t feel he was far from being ready to play in a game. Asked what the expectations would be today for Mahomes if he had to quarterback the Chiefs for real, Nagy said, “You’d still see some mistakes. That’s only fair to expect. We’d have to pull back. We know we’d have to be patient with the plays we’d call.
“But he’s really grown a lot from the first day of rookie camp until now. We’re really encouraged by his progress." [Reply]
Mahomes needs a ton of work to start. Learning to call plays is just the tip of the iceberg.
He hasn't taken snaps from under center
He's never taken drops.
His college offense forced defenses to rush 3 and drop 8 almost every game...so he needs a ton of work on identifying blitzes and adjusting protections.
He has faced mostly soft defenses in college. Linebackers in the NFL are as fast as the corners he was facing in college.
He hasn't faced complicated defenses before like he will see in the NFL.
Sight adjustment routes
Timing in the offense
Identifying personnel both in house and of opposing squads is HUGE at the NFL level.
All of that is going to be stuff Pat is going to need to learn before he's gonna be ready to lead the team [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
Wrong. There were plays which relied upon extended verbiage.
Correct.
Why are we debating this? Who gives a fuck? The kid is not a dumb meathead, FFS.
You know who interviewed and put this kid through the paces?
Dorsey and Reid.
Good enough.
Case closed.
Originally Posted by Coogs:
Here it is:
Originally Posted by JakeF: Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes calling plays in the huddle, making steady progress
The process of turning Patrick Mahomes II into an NFL-ready quarterback could be a long one. AP Photo/Charlie Riedel
10:04 AM CT
Adam Teicher
ESPN Staff Writer
Facebook
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The Kansas City Chiefs started in a place so basic with rookie quarterback Patrick Mahomes II when he arrived as their first-round draft pick that they had to teach him how to call plays in the huddle.
That was a new experience for Mahomes, who wasn’t asked to relay the playcall to teammates in college at Texas Tech. At first, even that didn’t go well.
“Day 1, when he got here, he was yelling the play out so loud in the huddle that the whole defense could hear him," said Matt Nagy, the Chiefs’ quarterbacks coach and co-offensive coordinator. “They could hear the play call, too.
“Now he knows to get in the huddle, be calm and speak only to the people he’s supposed to be talking to."
The Chiefs will take progress where they can get it. That’s a victory when it comes to their rookie quarterback, and there have been others.
But the process of turning him into an NFL-ready player is a long one, and the Chiefs and Mahomes are still in the early stages. Mahomes remains the third quarterback into the lineup in practice behind starter Alex Smith and Tyler Bray, and that doesn’t figure to change anytime soon.
Mahomes is frequently the last player off the field after practice. He generally stays late to work on his footwork. The Chiefs are trying to cram in as much with Mahomes as they can before the end of offseason practice next week.
Nagy indicated the work with Mahomes is showing, and not just when it comes to calling plays in the huddle. He said the Chiefs are encouraged because they’re not seeing the same mistakes twice from Mahomes.
The first pass of Mahomes’ first two-minute drill last week resulted in an interception when he was trying to unload the ball out of bounds on a play that was broken. He underestimated the ability of linebacker Reshard Cliett, who tipped the ball into the air and caught it.
Mahomes hasn’t made that mistake again.
“He’s able to see the play," Nagy said. “He can go into the huddle, call the play with confidence, visualize it. He identifies the [middle] linebacker, tries to work with the protections. We’re still not yet at the part where he sees the defense and understands where they’re coming from. It’s still a little fast, but it’s coming."
The lessons will come even faster for Mahomes at training camp when it begins next month. The Chiefs will be able to practice in pads for the first time and move at a much faster pace than in the offseason.
“Right now, we’re doing a lot of stuff," Nagy said. “He knew nothing about the offense at first. He went from basic plays, but it was very fast for him. Now he knows the offense, but we’re doing a lot. At training camp, we’ll get back to that part where things are basic again and he’s going to know the offense and the things he’s supposed to do, so we can let his talent go a little bit."
Mahomes said last week that he didn’t feel he was far from being ready to play in a game. Asked what the expectations would be today for Mahomes if he had to quarterback the Chiefs for real, Nagy said, “You’d still see some mistakes. That’s only fair to expect. We’d have to pull back. We know we’d have to be patient with the plays we’d call.
“But he’s really grown a lot from the first day of rookie camp until now. We’re really encouraged by his progress."
Hmm seems like a little contradictory information.....Don't know but either way I do believe he will pick it up but I do not expect him to start until 2018. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Just stop. Alex Smith is not Joe Montana, Brett Favre or Drew Brees.
Assimilating the playbook, is an intricate process, the talent is there and he needs the time to perfect it properly. Stop acting like anyone can play cold without the correct preparation, or you'll fuck up his confidence permanently. [Reply]
Steve Young was completely and utter awful in Tampa Bay, which is why he was traded.
The motherfucker was drafted in 1985 and didn't see the field as a starter until 1991 (5-5 with a Montana injury) and wasn't a full time starter until 1992.
