One side is pro Caliendo out of fear, the other is pro Humphries out of hope. Its a glass half full vs empty deal imo. I see it as Humphries is better up the arc than Thuney and Thuney is better at everything than Caliendo. They see it as oh my God holy fucking shit what if Humphries loses? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
One side is pro Caliendo out of fear, the other is pro Humphries out of hope. Its a glass half full vs empty deal imo. I see it as Humphries is better up the arc than Thuney and Thuney is better at everything than Caliendo. They see it as oh my God holy fucking shit what if Humphries loses?
What if Humphries loses us this game is a very real fear when we don't know what we're getting with him. [Reply]
Which is why Humphries isn’t a very good solution either. The one game he started and played 80% of the game, the offense struggled. It came down to a game winning drive to score a whopping 19 points on a last second doink. And, he wasn’t even in the game on that last drive.
Sadly, if the regular season play continues, the LT is going to come down to who hurts the team the least, as opposed to who helps the most. [Reply]
There's a very real possibility that Andy doesn't even know what he's going to do yet. His philosophy has always been to put the five best dudes on the field as much as possible, that's why he likes versatility so much. If he sticks to those guns, obviously Humphries is a far superior player to Caliendo. However, he also loves familiarity, so I'm sure he's having an internal battle with himself over this just as much as we are on this board.
In the end, it just might be left up to Pat. What is going to make him feel the most comfortable? Mindset is so damn important for a QB, and he looked completely relaxed in every game Thuney started at LT. That's going to play into this as well. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefnj:
...the LT is going to come down to who hurts the team the least, as opposed to who helps the most.
Sadly, this is the long and short of it. We're not going to be getting elite play either way. It's really our one and only weakness headed into the postseason. It's all about making it work as much as we possibly can, and I'll trust these guys to make that happen. [Reply]
Funny thing about all this is we might be in an equal position to what we were dealing with entering last year's playoffs.
How we quickly we forget that Donovan Smith just showed up in -29 degree wind chill against Miami and never looked back despite having a meh regular season in the games he did play. And to the points made above, it wasn't that he was dominant. He just was good enough to not cost us the goal. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
Sadly, this is the long and short of it. We're not going to be getting elite play either way. It's really our one and only weakness headed into the postseason. It's all about making it work as much as we possibly can, and I'll trust these guys to make that happen.
Kind of. I will continue to hammer on the fact that this isn't Thuney vs. Humpries - it's Thuney and Caliendo vs. Humpries and Thuney. If Humphries plays, my expectation is that he's essentially equal to what we've been getting out of Thuney and maybe even a slight step back - no one expects him to be a huge upgrade.
However, if Humphries plays and isn't a dumpster fire, we would be "getting elite play" at LG from Thuney rather than "barely starter level" play from Caliendo. THAT's the upside. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Funny thing about all this is we might be in an equal position to what we were dealing with entering last year's playoffs.
How we quickly we forget that Donovan Smith just showed up in -29 degree wind chill against Miami and never looked back despite having a meh regular season in the games he did play. And to the points made above, it wasn't that he was dominant. He just was good enough to not cost us the goal.
never understood why we didn't bring him back
I loved his baltimore locker room video after the win
Originally Posted by Coogs:
The rushed for an average of 108 yards per game the 3 games with Caliendo at guard. And the previous 7 games we rushed for an average of 95 yards a game. Those 7 games only had two games above 100 yards, and an outlier type of game with 165 yards. It’s not appearing like Caleindo caused our rushing game to take a giant step back.
As pointed out earlier that 108 includes a ton of yards from Mahomes and Worthy.
First 5 games of the year we averaged 117ypg while only gaining 79 week 1. In that time frame Pat had 1 game he ran for 33 and we racked up 149 total in that game.
Other than that they (Mahomes and Worthy) didn't do much of anything to contribute to the rushing stats averaging 117 a game start of the season. Games 2-4 we averaged 129 a game almost all from the RB's.
Pacheco got hurt and it didn't seem to slow things down initially, it almost seems we got away from the run in a bunch of games only rushing 14-20 times.
Probably a lot of factors to go with it along with the OL changes but I don't trust Caliendo playing RG in the playoffs. The overall stats prove out he is well well below average there. [Reply]
I think the misleading thing is that the offense performed BETTER with Thuney, but was it full bore the best offense? Or would an actual healthy tackle with tackle length and skill allow for some more varied drops allowing guys like Hollywood and X get open on deeper routes? You can only run the quick passing game so long before the modern NFL defense will shut it down. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
What if Humphries loses us this game is a very real fear when we don't know what we're getting with him.
Do you actually think this coaching staff will leave him in there if he's sucking shit? Now if its close in the 4th with 5 seconds to go and he whiffs....They shouldn't have been that fucking close. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Do you actually think this coaching staff will leave him in there if he's sucking shit? Now if its close in the 4th with 5 seconds to go and he whiffs....They shouldn't have been that fucking close.
I personally believe switching him out in the Divisional round of the playoffs is us fucking around at a time when we absolutely shouldn't be. We should know who our guy is now and ride him to the end. [Reply]