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The release date is now December 15, 2017.
The Official Synopsis from Star Wars.com
“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past.
Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
What words are being twisted?
Exactly.
I think Mark had a better sense of who his character was than the director. He went with it and did his best (and I agree Hamill is very good in the film and his scenes - along with Snoke scenes - are my favorites).
I was involved in developing a television show about a beloved and very iconic character and the studio who financed it brought in a showrunner who had a new take that was wildly inconsistent with who this character had been over the previous decades on film. Not surprisingly, the changes led to the network not picking up the pilot. The point I made at the time was that Godzilla can't be 7-feet tall and James Bond isn't German. There are some times that a character is what it is and shouldn't be changed just for the sake of changing the character.
As I've said before, however, I'm not one of those who was wildly offended by the direction that RJ took with Luke. I agree with Kevin Smith that the moment at the end would have had more weight had Luke actually been there, but it was a creative choice. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RINGLEADER:
Ah, the denial that the script took Luke in the wrong direction. I doubt that's how Hamill really feels but I could be wrong.
His reaction minutes after seeing the film for the first time at the premiere is priceless...
And now - people are hoping that JJ will somehow come up with something that will "save the story" - but we all know that's going to be Return of the Last Jedi. Fans will be complacently pleased, but will still be left asking what the point was to continuing the franchise (like they did after TFA).
People can be mad at Rian all they want to - but JJ has a track record of starting these exact mystery-driven stories and completely disregarding what the outcome is going to be. People are surprised that these mysteries had divisive payoffs, but at this point with JJ, should they be? I for one loved that Rian was willing to subvert expectations (Killing off 8 foot Palpatine, refusing to re-tell the Yoda/Obi-Wan - Luke story, and refusing the Deus-Ex the ending) while creating a character driven story that had compelling arcs for Kylo, Rey, Poe and Luke (though I know Luke's is being hotly debated).
Anywho - I was pleasantly surprised with TLJ and I'd love for JJ to prove me wrong with 9, but I'm guessing he's going to play it safe again - and that's incredibly disappointing.
Originally Posted by oaklandhater:
Luke is the son of a legendary Jedi and Han a world class smuggler.
Finn is a Trash man who took on the First order general with ease.
The question was in regard to it being odd that Finn is a resistance hero in so short a time. They threw luke and han a party complete with medals and fanfare and neither one of them were known to the resistance only days before.
No one in the resistance knew of Luke's lineage at the time of the medal ceremony. He was just a moisture farmer and no one knew han for shit. He was just a smuggler... not a "world class smuggler". [Reply]
Originally Posted by JakeLV:
We find things and ignore others to reinforce our own views. Your list is no different. The OT is rife with plot holes, inconsistencies, etc, and that's without even attempting to justify everything in light of the prequels.
Fact is, most of the people who grew up with the EU are just not going to like the new stories. It doesn't feel like Star Wars, because this isn't the Star Wars you know.
That's OK. They will be making these until the end of time. They're not targeting the existing fans. They're targeting the kids and the next generation of fans.
Originally Posted by temper11:
The question was in regard to it being odd that Finn is a resistance hero in so short a time. They threw luke and han a party complete with medals and fanfare and neither one of them were known to the resistance only days before.
No one in the resistance knew of Luke's lineage at the time of the medal ceremony. He was just a moisture farmer and no one knew han for shit. He was just a smuggler... not a "world class smuggler".
He's the captain of the millennium falcon it made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
You really don’t understand the difference in expectations from the first attempt at a Star Wars Story versus the Skywalker saga?
Good grief, man. I know you’re a huge fan but you have zero understanding of the movie business, the box office and expectations.
I think you are emphasizing a difference that the casual fan was completely unaware of. I doubt there were very many people in the world that didn't go to RO because it was mearly a "Star Wars story" and not the Skywalker saga. [Reply]
