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Nzoner's Game Room>Chris Jones and his 15+ sacks
Balto 12:51 PM 09-22-2023
Jones got his small bonus.

Week 1: 0
Week 2: 1.5
Week 3: 1.0
Week 4: 1.0
Week 5: 1.0
Week 6: 1.0
Week 7: 0
Week 8: 0
Week 9: 0
Week 10: BYE
Week 11: 2
Week 12: 0
Week 13: 0
Week 14: 0
Week 15: 0
Week 16: 1
Week 17: 1
Week 18: 1

Total: 10.5 Sacks
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Couch-Potato 08:54 AM 01-18-2024
Win SB.

We have ($31m) in cap space
Sign Jones $84m / 3yrs = $28m per w/ $12m Signing Bonus = $20m Cap Hit ($11m)
Sign Sneed $68m / 4yrs = $17m per w/ $8m Signing Bonus = $11m Cap Hit ($0)
Cut MVS = ($12m)
Sign the rest of our guys to small deals.
Restructure someone.
Draft well.

Repeat SB win, again.

...Both are too good to let go.
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O.city 08:56 AM 01-18-2024
Chris Jones knows he's playing his last days in a Chiefs uniform, the Chiefs know it, time for you all to figure it out.
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Balto 09:19 AM 01-18-2024
I think Veach will start weighing trade interest before FA even starts. I could see a team like the Lions making this trade.
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raybec 4 09:26 AM 01-18-2024
Originally Posted by Balto:
I think Veach will start weighing trade interest before FA even starts. I could see a team like the Lions making this trade.
Veach cannot trade him unless/until he is franchised and signs the tag. That could crater the entire offseason tying up 32 million of the cap. I doubt that's what happens.
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Bl00dyBizkitz 09:29 AM 01-18-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
The time to have traded him, was this past offseason.

Just enjoy this last few games.
Yup. This last offseason really fucked our chances of getting value out of Jones. A reasonable extension or a trade haul was the play. Instead we got fucked by his agents and get nothing. Those agents of his fucked this up.
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Balto 10:08 AM 01-18-2024
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
Veach cannot trade him unless/until he is franchised and signs the tag. That could crater the entire offseason tying up 32 million of the cap. I doubt that's what happens.
I understand this. I'm saying that Veach will start talking to GMs prior to FA. Then he would plan to tag Jones and trade him the first day of the new league year and still have talks with other FAs because agents would know they have room because Jones is being traded which would open that cap space back up.

Veach doesn't have to wait till FA starts to talk trades with other GMs...
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O.city 10:10 AM 01-18-2024
Why would another GM trade for an pay him when he could just wait and pay him and keep his picks?
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PHOG 10:11 AM 01-18-2024
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
Yup. This last offseason really fucked our chances of getting value out of Jones. A reasonable extension or a trade haul was the play. Instead we got fucked by his agents and get nothing. Those agents of his fucked this up.
Are they still his agents?
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Straight, No Chaser 10:53 AM 01-18-2024
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
Yup. This last offseason really ****ed our chances of getting value out of Jones. A reasonable extension or a trade haul was the play. Instead we got ****ed by his agents and get nothing. Those agents of his ****ed this up.
Jeezus. Take a chill pill.

Originally Posted by :
Instead we got ****ed
We have Long Dong Silver inside and outside.

As stated before ad Naseum, he's a LEADER, he makes the defense better, he allows Spags to "do things", he wrecks shit and there's a good chance he will have a F2F with Joshie Boy on Sunday night. Without him playing, you have ___________
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Balto 11:07 AM 01-18-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
Why would another GM trade for an pay him when he could just wait and pay him and keep his picks?
Couldn't you say this about every tag and traded player ever? BUT it still happens because the Lions, for example, understands that a player like Jones might not pick Detroit as his last stop if a offer is equal from another team in a better location...BUT if it means signing a contract with the Lions for exactly the money he wants versus playing on the tag another year and risking injury/bad year and such he could very well sign.

A team like the Lions trade a pick or player to make this happen because they feel that Jones would not come willingly once he tests the open market.

A concept that has happened OVER AND OVER again.
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TEX 12:48 PM 01-18-2024
Originally Posted by crispystl:
Defense was flying all over the field and knocking the shit out of the Dolphins. I hope they can do that in Buffalo.
If they can, they'll win by a couple scores.
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TEX 12:53 PM 01-18-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
Had they known they couldn't keep CJ, I would imagine they'd have kept Tyreek.
That's exactly what I meant by hindsight.
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Chargem 01:12 PM 01-18-2024
Originally Posted by TEX:
That's exactly what I meant by hindsight.
Jones wasn't tradeable when Tyreek was, it was never an option to trade Jones
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O.city 01:26 PM 01-18-2024
Originally Posted by Chargem:
Jones wasn't tradeable when Tyreek was, it was never an option to trade Jones
Why?

He had a couple years left on his deal....coulda done it this past offseason had you signed Tyreek.
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raybec 4 01:41 PM 01-18-2024
Originally Posted by Balto:
I understand this. I'm saying that Veach will start talking to GMs prior to FA. Then he would plan to tag Jones and trade him the first day of the new league year and still have talks with other FAs because agents would know they have room because Jones is being traded which would open that cap space back up.

Veach doesn't have to wait till FA starts to talk trades with other GMs...
He does have to wait until the tag is signed to execute any trade negotiated. If Veach learned ANYTHING from this past offseason it should have been that you can't count on Jones or his agents to act in good faith.
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