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Nzoner's Game Room>This seems to explain Mahomes happy feet
RunKC 12:59 PM 10-01-2024
OL got absolutely wrecked the first 3 drives. Patrick probably felt like he had to get rid for he ball quickly or scramble the rest of the game bc of the early OL play.

1st play: Wants to take a deep shot to start the game, gears up, about to unleash, and has an OL in his lap and can't follow through. Has to pull the ball down and dump it off. pic.twitter.com/DwqvMh4h3Q

— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 1, 2024


3rd play: Can't step into the throw because and OL is being pushed into his follow through area and has to throw it flat footed to Kelce. Incredible throw. Catching a theme here yet? pic.twitter.com/QWTmg46LKD

— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 1, 2024


5th play: Immediate read not open, left side of the OL starts getting collapsed into him, finds his RB on the check down but the ball gets tipped by a DL. pic.twitter.com/fg66gFFFnk

— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 1, 2024


7th play: Nice pocket, ball out on time, hits the WR in the hands on 3rd down for a dropped pass. pic.twitter.com/9vUVTY8zbV

— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 1, 2024


9th play: Stunts going on but a cleaner pocket than it seems from the back view. Doesn't matter, ball out and ripped to the WR for a completion. pic.twitter.com/nNZFaP4YB5

— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 1, 2024


11th play: Defense wins the rep, gets a free rusher for a quick sack. pic.twitter.com/3pwQeLXykT

— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 1, 2024


13th play: Hits the top of his drop, already has to slide left, hits the TE down the middle while another DL gets hands on him after the throw. pic.twitter.com/IHsNKMZRCP

— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 1, 2024


15th play: Clean pocket, drifts slightly left towards his throw and completes the pass. pic.twitter.com/8UodoeN8k4

— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 1, 2024


17th play: FIRST time all game he's gotten "happy feet" or bailed from a clean pocket. Feels the stunts and games and makes a run for it. Should've stayed in the pocket. pic.twitter.com/mGinhozWgH

— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 1, 2024


Ok, so do we understand now? Every clean pocket except for the INT was a nice play and completed pass. He had people in his face from the get go, and the pocket was continually getting collapsed into him. Despite that he still completed a lot of those passes early on.

— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 1, 2024


By my eye the OL has not allowed Pat to feel clean pockets with regularity most of the year. It started late in the 2nd quarter of the Baltimore game and has mostly continued through this game. For whatever reason the protection hasn't been quite as good.

— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 1, 2024


That will need to change, and quick, because of the injuries to the WR position and changes there. But I wanted to do this to show that what we do up front is usually the biggest difference in every game, regardless of who's throwing and who's catching. It's still an OL league.

— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 1, 2024

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RunKC 02:29 PM 10-01-2024
Romo was making it seem like Mahomes held the ball on purpose on this one. Likely didn’t see Watson breaking open bc Trey got pushed into his face while it was happening.

This is one you wish could have gone differently from a protection perspective because Watson is wide open in the endzone for a TD. But Mahomes is having to scramble and decide if he willing to bring his arm back for the velocity needed and risk the ball getting knocked out. pic.twitter.com/2lmVjggQ7Q

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) October 1, 2024

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Bl00dyBizkitz 02:30 PM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Wait.

So Matt Nagy is now the reason we AREN'T throwing fast/short routes?

2 weeks ago I thought he'd turned PM into Alex Smith?

I'm really confused now.
ITS MATT NAGY GOD DAMNIT. DON'T QUESTION IT.
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TEX 02:31 PM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Wait.

So Matt Nagy is now the reason we AREN'T throwing fast/short routes?

2 weeks ago I thought he'd turned PM into Alex Smith?

I'm really confused now.
Dont be. Nagy sucks regardless.
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dirk digler 02:32 PM 10-01-2024
man Watson was wide open and Pat saw him. He should have thrown that regardless.
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Lzen 02:43 PM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Just need some more weeks/months for Mahomes to get comfortable with the new guys at Left Tackle. This happened in 2021 with Orlando Brown. By the end of 2021 season, Mahomes was a lot more comfortable with Orlando. Same thing in 2023 with Donovan Smith. Hopefully Wanya or Kingsley can be more of a long-term option instead of the Band-Aid situation we've seen at the LT position the last few years.
Sure, but there were plays that Taylor, Thuney, and Smith also failed on (can't recall if I saw Creed Humphrey have any bad plays in those clips). So yeah, the LT is the weakest one of the group. However, I have seen bad snaps by the other guys in all the games this year, even Humphrey.
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DRM08 02:44 PM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by Lzen:
Sure, but there were plays that Taylor, Thuney, and Smith also failed on (can't recall if I saw Creed Humphrey have any bad plays in those clips). So yeah, the LT is the weakest one of the group. However, I have seen bad snaps by the other guys in all the games this year, even Humphrey.
Nobody is perfect of course. Even the best OL that ever played will occasionally lose some reps. Same thing with every position on the field honestly.
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Lzen 02:47 PM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Wait.

So Matt Nagy is now the reason we AREN'T throwing fast/short routes?

2 weeks ago I thought he'd turned PM into Alex Smith?

I'm really confused now.
I think the Matt Nagy hate is just plain retarded.
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Lzen 02:49 PM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Nobody is perfect of course. Even the best OL that ever played will occasionally lose some reps. Same thing with every position on the field honestly.
Agreed but our guys seem to be having way too many of those this year. Need to be better.
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Marcellus 02:56 PM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
man Watson was wide open and Pat saw him. He should have thrown that regardless.
I think that situation is a result of the turnovers he has been committing making him a little gun-shy. Decided to protect the ball that side of the field.
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Marcellus 02:58 PM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by Lzen:
I think the Matt Nagy hate is just plain reeruned.
Firing Nagy seems to be a disgruntled Chief's fan panacea not matter the actual problem or issue.
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DaFace 03:05 PM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Firing Nagy seems to be a disgruntled Chief's fan panacea not matter the actual problem or issue.
Before that, it was "Fire Bienemy." Rinse and repeat.
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KCUnited 03:09 PM 10-01-2024
I don’t think Nagy is a problem but it’s a bit amusing reading people quick to blame 2 HoFers for the offense struggles before the OC

The OC in KC is bulletproof because they’re mostly a non-factor which is all that needs to be said about Nagy
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-King- 03:10 PM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by Lzen:
I think the Matt Nagy hate is just plain retarded.
He's been the biggest change in our offense since 2022. It cannot be a coincidence that we have the best offense in the league in 2022 and suddenly when he takes over we immediately become average at best and players look undisciplined and fundamentally unsound as ever. What else could it be? Was Juju the most integral WR ever that losing him turned the offense from all time great to mediocre? Doubt it.


It has to be a game planning issue and players not being held accountable for the mistakes which leads them to making more.
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-King- 03:12 PM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Before that, it was "Fire Bienemy." Rinse and repeat.
Sure. But the offense was top 3 when people were saying that. Even all time great. So that was stupid.


Now the offense is average at best and Mahomes is one game away from setting the franchise record for consecutive regular season games with an INT and has league worst ADOT since Nagy took over. Why ignore that?
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FloridaMan88 03:18 PM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by -King-:
He's been the biggest change in our offense since 2022. It cannot be a coincidence that we have the best offense in the league in 2022 and suddenly when he takes over we immediately become average at best and players look undisciplined and fundamentally unsound as ever. What else could it be? Was Juju the most integral WR ever that losing him turned the offense from all time great to mediocre? Doubt it.


It has to be a game planning issue and players not being held accountable for the mistakes which leads them to making more.
I have yet to hear a Nagy Apologist adequately explain the drop off from 2022 to the past two years.

It’s almost all the same personnel, minus OBJ and Wylie at the tackle positions.
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