The NFL began in 1920 and there are only 2 teams that remain from the original league, the Bears and the Cardinals. There have been 49 NFL teams that folded and all existing teams started in widely varying years. Because of that, teams have played wildly different quality of opponents and widely varying numbers of games. However, given all of that, here are the top 10 teams in all-time winning percentage:
1) Dallas Cowboys - 562-413-6 .576 (up .002 from last year)
2) Green Bay Packers - 799-598-38 .570 (down .001 from last year)
3) Baltimore Ravens - 256-194-1 .569 (up .008 from last year)
4) New England Patriots - 541-433-9 .555 (down .006 from last year)
5) Chicago Bears - 793-634-42 .556 (down .002 from last year)
6) Miami Dolphins - 496-399-4 .554 (up .002 from last year)
7) Kansas City Chiefs - 532-439-12 .547 (up .001 from last year and up one spot in these standings)
8) Minnesota Vikings - 523-435-11 .545 (down .007 from last year and down one spot in these standings)
9) San Francisco 49ers - 586-501-14 .539 (up .003 from last year)
10) Pittsburgh Steelers - 671-578-22 .537 (up .001 from last year)
The Bears and Packers both benefited from playing a lot of bad teams that folded shortly after founding. The Ravens were established in 1996, but were actually the Cleveland Browns, so they were a fully formed franchise from the very start and did not suffer the pains of an expansion team.
[I removed the speculation here about where we might finish in the next season. I'll come back and address that sometime before next season starts.]
I also broke down the numbers into the NFL divisions and found the following winning percentages:
1) NFC North .532 (unchanged)
2) AFC West .521 (down .001 from last year)
3) NFC East .520 (unchanged)
4) AFC East .508 (unchanged)
5) AFC North .508 (up .002 from last year)
6) NFC West .490 (up .001 from last year)
7) AFC South .484 (unchanged)
8) NFC South .442 (down .001 from last year)
The AFC West is also the only division in which every team is over .500. The NFC South is the only division in which every team is under .500.
Finally, I don't know whether this last comparison is meaningful, but in all-time records:
Originally Posted by scho63:
If the Chiefs and Mahomes go another 5 years with a minimum of 12 wins, they will be in the Top 3.
It would also put Reid at 3-4 in all time wins (depending on the hoodie and when he's done). Heck, if Andy can average 12 wins a season for 7 more he would pass Shula. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut:
And they ensure that every decade they find some heartbreaking way to shatter their fans.
It is quite remarkable. That is the real curse; getting close but falling short.
Al Davis for all his warts was a brilliant football mind until he got old and senile. Unfortunately for Raider fans, none of the good traits made it to his son and as such the legacy the young Al built has been crumbling ever since. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tredadda:
It would also put Reid at 3-4 in all time wins (depending on the hoodie and when he's done). Heck, if Andy can average 12 wins a season for 7 more he would pass Shula.
We should start a countdown clock somewhere up in the header. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
We should start a countdown clock somewhere up in the header.
If KC averages 13 a year it would take just over 6 to pass Shula and right now he is only 9 playoff wins from tying hoodie. Crazy to think of how good he is and how lucky KC fans are that he is here. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut:
Good stuff, Red.
Just one quibble. There were many defunct teams from the 1920s. But remember many a good team from that era shut down due to financial issues. It would be interesting to separate the Bears and Packers' records against the good and bad defunct teams.
Looking into the records of all the NFL teams I found that every single team with games against defunct teams, except for the Steelers, had their winning percentages reduced by removing those games. Eleven teams had games played against defunct teams, but only 2 of those are currently in the AFC. Of those two teams, the Steeler and the Browns, each played fewer than 50 games against those opponents. On the other end, the Bears, Cardinals, Packers, and Giants each had more than 100 such games. I put together the list again and found the following:
1) Dallas Cowboys - 550-408-6 .574
2) Baltimore Ravens - 243-190-1 .561
3) New England Patriots - 537-420-9 .561
4) Green Bay Packers - 712-573-30 .553
5) Miami Dolphins - 485-393-4 .552
6) Minnesota Vikings - 516-425-11 .552
7) Kansas City Chiefs - 521-433-12 .546
8) Pittsburgh Steelers - 643-556-20 .536
9) Chicago Bears - 696-607-28 .533
10) Indianapolis Colts - 547-493-8 .526
The Chiefs are one position higher in these standings and could actually move up as high as #2 this year with a lot of breaks. It's more likely that we could move up 2 spots at the most.
The divisional breakdown looks like this:
1) AFC West .522
2) NFC North .518
3) NFC East .512
4) AFC East .508
5) AFC North .506
6) AFC South .484
7) NFC West .482
8) NFC South .443
Finally, the breakdown of the AFC and NFC all-time win percentages makes a little more sense:
Originally Posted by RedinTexas:
Looking into the records of all the NFL teams I found that every single team with games against defunct teams, except for the Steelers, had their winning percentages reduced by removing those games. Eleven teams had games played against defunct teams, but only 2 of those are currently in the AFC. Of those two teams, the Steeler and the Browns, each played fewer than 50 games against those opponents. On the other end, the Bears, Cardinals, Packers, and Giants each had more than 100 such games. I put together the list again and found the following:
1) Dallas Cowboys - 550-408-6 .574
2) Baltimore Ravens - 243-190-1 .561
3) New England Patriots - 537-420-9 .561
4) Green Bay Packers - 712-573-30 .553
5) Miami Dolphins - 485-393-4 .552
6) Minnesota Vikings - 516-425-11 .552
7) Kansas City Chiefs - 521-433-12 .546
8) Pittsburgh Steelers - 643-556-20 .536
9) Chicago Bears - 696-607-28 .533
10) Indianapolis Colts - 547-493-8 .526
The Chiefs are one position higher in these standings and could actually move up as high as #2 this year with a lot of breaks. It's more likely that we could move up 2 spots at the most.
The divisional breakdown looks like this:
1) AFC West .522
2) NFC North .518
3) NFC East .512
4) AFC East .508
5) AFC North .506
6) AFC South .484
7) NFC West .482
8) NFC South .443
Finally, the breakdown of the AFC and NFC all-time win percentages makes a little more sense:
1) AFC .506
2) NFC .494
Top-notch research, sir.
Bring back the Canton Bulldogs and Providence Steamroller! [Reply]