Originally Posted by : Young Chiefs fan's defamation lawsuit against Deadspin to move forward: 'Crossed the fine line'
A Delaware judge ruled Monday that the Armenta family’s lawsuit against Deadspin for accusing their son of wearing "blackface" at a Chiefs game last year can proceed.
In 2023, Deadspin writer Carron Phillips wrote an article using an image of nine-year-old Holden Armenta sporting black and red Kansas City Chiefs face paint at a game, showing only the black half of his face. Phillips accused Holden of finding a way to "hate Black people and the Native Americans at the same time" and accused his parents of teaching him "hatred."
Holden’s parents Raul Jr. and Shannon later filed a lawsuit in February accusing the sports blog of maliciously attacking Holden by selectively posting only one half of his face and accusing them of racism.
Holden Armenta, 9, attends the Chiefs-Raiders game on Nov. 26 in Las Vegas.
On Monday, Superior Court Judge Sean Lugg denied Deadspin’s motion to dismiss the lawsuit, agreeing that the blog posted "provable false assertions" as facts rather than opinion.
"Deadspin published an image of a child displaying his passionate fandom as a backdrop for its critique of the NFL’s diversity efforts and, in its description of the child, crossed the fine line protecting its speech from defamation claims," the judge wrote.
"Having reviewed the complaint, the court concludes that Deadspin’s statements accusing [Holden] of wearing black face and Native headdress ‘to hate black people and the Native American at the same time,’ and that he was taught this hatred by his parents, are provable false assertions of fact and are therefore actionable," Lugg added.
Deadspin posted an image showing only one half of Holden's face at a Chiefs game.
Lugg also refused to dismiss the case based on the assertion that the case should have been filed in the Armenta family’s home state of California rather than Delaware, where Deadspin’s parent company G/O Media resides. G/O Media later sold Deadspin to Lineup Publishing one month after the lawsuit was filed.
A representative from G/O Media declined to comment to Fox News Digital.
Deadspin did not retract the original article. However, an editor’s note was added to address the controversy.
"We regret any suggestion that we were attacking the fan or his family. To that end, our story was updated on Dec. 7 to remove any photos, tweets, links, or otherwise identifying information about the fan. We have also revised the headline to better reflect the substance of the story," the note read.
The headline was also changed from "The NFL needs to speak out against the Kansas City Chiefs fan in Black face, Native headdress" to "The NFL Must Ban Native Headdress And Culturally Insensitive Face Paint in the Stands."
Judge Lugg agreed the original article asserted its accusations of racism as "provable false assertions of fact."
Phillips initially doubled down on his accusations in a since-deleted X post.
"For the idiots in my mentions who are treating this as some harmless act because the other side of his face was painted red, I could make the argument that it makes it even worse. Y'all are the ones who hate [M]exican but wear sombreros on cinco [de Mayo]," Phillips said.
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Deadspin died 4 years ago when they let Drew Magary and every other good writer go. It's just a clickbait mill run by vulture capitalists now.
Magary was very political, too, even though he was more talented than the writers that followed him.
The original site in the mid-2000s was actually funny and hated on everyone and didn't play any sides. But the site still made sports fun. Deadspin in recent years has made sports as toxic as politics. [Reply]
Originally Posted by oldandslow:
I truly am not hyper race sensitive, but accusing the kid of appropriating black culture while wearing a plains Indian war bonnet is pretty ironic.
Just sayin'
yeah I mean like the whole thing was stupid. like from what I understand the kid is native american and like the unspoken assumption is that he you know... doesn't look native american which is itself pretty fuckin racist [Reply]
Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar:
yeah I mean like the whole thing was stupid. like from what I understand the kid is native american and like the unspoken assumption is that he you know... doesn't look native american which is itself pretty ****in racist
If the kid is actually native then his parents need to teach him about his culture. There is a reason Arrowhead banned the headdresses and that’s because they actually took the time to learn about the culture. I work all across the country in Indian Health Services and ask the natives their opinions on the Chiefs name and tomahawk chop and not one of them cares, but the feathered war bonnets are very sacred. They would be offended if a full blooded Native American child that age was wearing that as well. It is essentially stolen valor. It’s like some ANTIFA kid saying Semper Fi to a marine. Just show some ****ing respect to peoples sacred cultures. It shouldn’t be that hard to understand. [Reply]
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
If the kid is actually native then his parents need to teach him about his culture. There is a reason Arrowhead banned the headdresses and that’s because they actually took the time to learn about the culture. I work all across the country in Indian Health Services and ask the natives their opinions on the Chiefs name and tomahawk chop and not one of them cares, but the feathered war bonnets are very sacred. They would be offended if a full blooded Native American child that age was wearing that as well. It is essentially stolen valor. It’s like some ANTIFA kid saying Semper Fi to a marine. Just show some ****ing respect to peoples sacred cultures. It shouldn’t be that hard to understand.
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
If the kid is actually native then his parents need to teach him about his culture. There is a reason Arrowhead banned the headdresses and that’s because they actually took the time to learn about the culture. I work all across the country in Indian Health Services and ask the natives their opinions on the Chiefs name and tomahawk chop and not one of them cares, but the feathered war bonnets are very sacred. They would be offended if a full blooded Native American child that age was wearing that as well. It is essentially stolen valor. It’s like some ANTIFA kid saying Semper Fi to a marine. Just show some ****ing respect to peoples sacred cultures. It shouldn’t be that hard to understand.
yeah sure but like was this story even necessary? like for the sake of argument lets assume the parents dressed their kid up for the sole reason of being as racist as possible and doing it as racistly as they could, like it's still a little kid. a 10 year old doesn't have much say and has like no power to affect anything. like if it was clark hunt's adult child, sure okay blast away. but like it's a little kid, let someone in his tribe explain why he shouldn't do that. deadspin's story was at the same level of "look what this racist facebook grandma posted". people go nuts about this stuff, knowing how the internet has made everyone insane I'm sure this kid got death threats and shit, there's no reason to blast him publicly, let the people who would actually be affected by it handle it, that's all I'm saying [Reply]
Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar:
yeah sure but like was this story even necessary? like for the sake of argument lets assume the parents dressed their kid up for the sole reason of being as racist as possible and doing it as racistly as they could, like it's still a little kid. a 10 year old doesn't have much say and has like no power to affect anything. like if it was clark hunt's adult child, sure okay blast away. but like it's a little kid, let someone in his tribe explain why he shouldn't do that. deadspin's story was at the same level of "look what this racist facebook grandma posted". people go nuts about this stuff, knowing how the internet has made everyone insane I'm sure this kid got death threats and shit, there's no reason to blast him publicly, let the people who would actually be affected by it handle it, that's all I'm saying
Oh, I completely agree. The only people I know calling for an end to the chop have never been on a reservation in their entire lives. The fact of the matter is that they still have so many issues they deal with on a daily basis like their women disappearing off the reservation in alarming numbers. No one on a reservation has time to worry about an NFL team doing the tomahawk chop.
The parents put the kid in this situation, though. Just own up to being bad parents. Don’t try and make a fortune off your kids misery. Do you think them filing this lawsuit will help people forget about this so the kid can get on with his life? Deadspin can definitely go **** themselves, but let’s not reward the kids parents for being a couple ****ing obtuse morons. [Reply]
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
Oh, I completely agree. The only people I know calling for an end to the chop have never been on a reservation in their entire lives. The fact of the matter is that they still have so many issues they deal with on a daily basis like their women disappearing off the reservation in alarming numbers. No one on a reservation has time to worry about an NFL team doing the tomahawk chop.
The parents put the kid in this situation, though. Just own up to being bad parents. Don’t try and make a fortune off your kids misery. Do you think them filing this lawsuit will help people forget about this so the kid can get on with his life? Deadspin can definitely go **** themselves, but let’s not reward the kids parents for being a couple ****ing obtuse morons.
Lol I’m going to go put a headdress on now you convinced me [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
Never even hear of Deadspin anymore. This story is the only thing I’ve seen from/about them in the past 10 years. They probably love it.
I doubt any company is going to "love" being sued out of existence. (which they deserve)
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Dude, Deadspin should pay out of their asses and hopefully get shut down for allowing this crap to be published. The stupid bitch, Carron Phillips, should be blacklisted and never have another article published again. First she writes the stupid as shit article and then doubles down by saying the red makes it worse because of Mexicans and sombreros or some shit.
What a dumb bitch.
“She”?
Boy are you gonna be surprised when you google Carron Phillips. [Reply]
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Deadspin died 4 years ago when they let Drew Magary and every other good writer go. It's just a clickbait mill run by vulture capitalists now.
Bad news - that was like 8 years ago.
And magary cut his own balls off a couple of years before that even.
Around the time they gave Daulerio the keys, it was over. [Reply]
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
Oh, I completely agree. The only people I know calling for an end to the chop have never been on a reservation in their entire lives. The fact of the matter is that they still have so many issues they deal with on a daily basis like their women disappearing off the reservation in alarming numbers. No one on a reservation has time to worry about an NFL team doing the tomahawk chop.
The parents put the kid in this situation, though. Just own up to being bad parents. Don’t try and make a fortune off your kids misery. Do you think them filing this lawsuit will help people forget about this so the kid can get on with his life? Deadspin can definitely go **** themselves, but let’s not reward the kids parents for being a couple ****ing obtuse morons.
:-) What? Fuck that, run those stupid fucking assholes out of business and secure generational wealth while they're at it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
If the kid is actually native then his parents need to teach him about his culture. There is a reason Arrowhead banned the headdresses and that’s because they actually took the time to learn about the culture. I work all across the country in Indian Health Services and ask the natives their opinions on the Chiefs name and tomahawk chop and not one of them cares, but the feathered war bonnets are very sacred. They would be offended if a full blooded Native American child that age was wearing that as well. It is essentially stolen valor. It’s like some ANTIFA kid saying Semper Fi to a marine. Just show some ****ing respect to peoples sacred cultures. It shouldn’t be that hard to understand.
Originally Posted by :
H.A. himself is partially Chumash-Indian as his father belongs to the Santa Ynez Bank of the Chumash Indians and works on the tribal reservation. The boy’s paternal grandfather was also a tribal elder, the complaint said.
I think as a Chumash-Indian that the tribe would be the ones who have the right to be offended. And no one else.
I guess you would also have or point out a problem this...
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch: :-) What? **** that, run those stupid ****ing assholes out of business and secure generational wealth while they're at it.
:-) A defamation lawsuit isn’t bringing anyone “generational wealth” [Reply]
