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Nzoner's Game Room>Rasslin is YES! YES! YES!
Reaper16 09:58 AM 04-08-2014
Last thread has well over 10,000 replies. Its body is breaking down like The Undertaker's. Seeing as we might have crossed the threshold into a new era in the business, here's a fresh new thread.


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BryanBusby 02:06 PM 01-28-2019
I was ok with the order in a way. It got a lot of the garbage out of the way early so that the womens one could finish stronger.

The exec's, writers and agents all need to watch the mens rumble if they want an understanding on why the current product is stale as piss.
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Sassy Squatch 02:12 PM 01-28-2019
They will NEVER understand. Ratings fall to an all time low? McMahons come back as authority figures. They NEED to make a new superstar but they keep trying to use the same tactics from 20 years ago that only worked because The Rock is fucking awesome, and the McMahon-Austin feud can't be recaptured a 2nd time, no matter how many times they try.
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BryanBusby 02:17 PM 01-28-2019
The McMahon's are minimal at best. I'd be more concerned with the fact that Seth Rollins is using a Roman Reigns script from early 2018, with his name written over Roman's.

They waited a year too long and capitalized at the worst moment considering he's coming off a drizzling dogshit program with Dean Ambrose, who is the most blah performer.
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Sassy Squatch 02:20 PM 01-28-2019
:-) Goes from turning heel on the night Roman Reigns announces his Leukemia to being inoculated with a giant fucking needle in the span of a couple of weeks. What were they thinking.
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otherstar 02:33 PM 01-28-2019
Originally Posted by Swanman:
Jericho is a 50 year old part-timer that is still capable of putting on 5-star matches, like he did at Wrestle Kingdom with Naito. AEW's roster so far is pretty damn good and if they can get an agreement worked out with Omega and/or Ibushi then it gets even better. One good thing for WWE fans is that The Revival may finally get a good push because if they don't, they are damn sure leaving for AEW once their contracts are up.
First, Jericho is 48 (he's almost 2 months younger than me) LOL :-)

Second (and most important), AEW can spend all the money they want, but it has to be booked well for them to beat WWE. AEW needs to learn from WCW's mistakes.
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BryanBusby 02:36 PM 01-28-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
:-) Goes from turning heel on the night Roman Reigns announces his Leukemia to being inoculated with a giant fucking needle in the span of a couple of weeks. What were they thinking.
Well they've always booked him like a joke.

"Hurr he's so wacky....forgot his title in the uber! WHAT A FRINGE CRAZY GUY"
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CoMoChief 02:53 PM 01-28-2019
What's sad about the WWE today, is nobody 20yrs from now is going to talk about today's current roster. No one's gonna be like "Hey remember what Seth Rollins or Stroman etc etc did on Raw, or PPV etc".

I still watch old Attitude Era clips on Youtube. Still entertaining as hell.
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otherstar 03:45 PM 01-28-2019
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
What's sad about the WWE today, is nobody 20yrs from now is going to talk about today's current roster. No one's gonna be like "Hey remember what Seth Rollins or Stroman etc etc did on Raw, or PPV etc".

I still watch old Attitude Era clips on Youtube. Still entertaining as hell.
What's equally sad is that if creative would give the members of the roster room to shine, they could be talking about them in 20 years.
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Swanman 03:47 PM 01-28-2019
Originally Posted by otherstar:
First, Jericho is 48 (he's almost 2 months younger than me) LOL :-)

Second (and most important), AEW can spend all the money they want, but it has to be booked well for them to beat WWE. AEW needs to learn from WCW's mistakes.
More currently, they need to learn from TNA's mistakes and I think they have. I know All In was a one-off show but it was booked extremely well and pretty much built up with the Being the Elite youtube show. They aren't going to hire a fleet of writers and several of the talents (like Joey Janella) already have experience booking their own shows. They will let the wrestlers have a lot of input into their characters and historically, that's how big stars are made, Austin and Rock being the biggest examples.
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Sassy Squatch 03:54 PM 01-28-2019
Who else is ready for The Nation Of Vegetation on Tuesday?
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'Hamas' Jenkins 03:54 PM 01-28-2019
If you actually go back and watch the wrestling in the Attitude Era it doesn't hold up very well--too reliant on swerves and foreign objects with a lot of bloated stiffs. Wrestlemania XIV-XVI were really shitty cards. There were a lot of awful, awful storylines, too. However, when they did hit, they often hit it out of the park. The best period for the in-ring aspect was the post-Attitude, pre-Cena era; it was probably the most balanced the wrestling product ever was.

Today's matches are just spot-to-spot with very little selling or psychology, which makes it more like a crossfit workout than a wrestling match.
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Swanman 03:58 PM 01-28-2019
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
If you actually go back and watch the wrestling in the Attitude Era it doesn't hold up very well--too reliant on swerves and foreign objects with a lot of bloated stiffs. Wrestlemania XIV-XVI were really shitty cards. There were a lot of awful, awful storylines, too. However, when they did hit, they often hit it out of the park. The best period for the in-ring aspect was the post-Attitude, pre-Cena era; it was probably the most balanced the wrestling product ever was.

Today's matches are just spot-to-spot with very little selling or psychology, which makes it more like a crossfit workout than a wrestling match.
That would have been the period of the Smackdown 6 when Heyman was booking Smackdown. He was always a master of hiding weaknesses and showcasing strengths so when he had a group of high workrate guys on Smackdown he went nuts with it. It was a bit similar to the real early period in ECW when they had Malenko, Guerrero and Jericho. That iteration of ECW was more like ROH.
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Sassy Squatch 04:00 PM 01-28-2019
How about The Straight Veg Society?

Also, Attitude Era is hilariously overrated. Go back and try to watch a full episide. Horrendous.
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Swanman 04:06 PM 01-28-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
How about The Straight Veg Society?

Also, Attitude Era is hilariously overrated. Go back and try to watch a full episide. Horrendous.
ReVegetation X?
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Swanman 04:07 PM 01-28-2019
Originally Posted by Swanman:
ReVegetation X?
Bullet Shrub?
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