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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Frazod 08:48 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Of course the SEC is good for Mizzou and Mizzou is a good addition to the SEC. Plus, it will allow me to talk about SEC football much more (yes, even more than now) around here. :-)
Suddenly you would no longer be the only one who gives a shit.
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Saul Good 08:49 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
I realize your trip to Worlds of Fun might dictate otherwise, but if super conferences happen, KU and K-State will both have a seat at the table somewhere.
I'm confident that KU will. I'm not so sure about KSU, though. If I'm the KSU brass, priority 1 is getting academics to a level that could lead to AAU membership. Without that, B1G isn't an option.

If Texas, OU, OSU, and Tech go to the PAC, the B1G could take ND, KU, Rutgers, and (fourth school). The SEC could add WVU and FSU, UNC, UVA, or Va Tech.

At that point, if KSU isn't the last team in the B1G, they are fucked. They aren't going to the ACC by themselves.
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DaKCMan AP 08:51 AM 10-05-2011
Mizzou can dream of one day celebrating like this..



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Bambi 08:51 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
You're a tool.
I don't know who you are?
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DaKCMan AP 08:52 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
Suddenly you would no longer be the only one who gives a shit.
Yet still be the most Awesome.
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Frazod 08:52 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
I don't know who you are?
He's a KU fan. He's also a moderator, so by all means, keep annoying him.
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Frazod 08:53 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Yet still be the most Awesome.
I must admit, I do find you slightly less annoying than before. :-)
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ChiTown 08:53 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
I'm confident that KU will. I'm not so sure about KSU, though. If I'm the KSU brass, priority 1 is getting academics to a level that could lead to AAU membership. Without that, B1G isn't an option.

If Texas, OU, OSU, and Tech go to the PAC, the B1G could take ND, KU, Rutgers, and (fourth school). The SEC could add WVU and FSU, UNC, UVA, or Va Tech.

At that point, if KSU isn't the last team in the B1G, they are ****ed. They aren't going to the ACC by themselves.
KSU will be fine. Suffice it to say, they want the B12-2-1(-1?) to stay together for all the obvious reasons. If it doesn't, we'll have a landing in one of the Super Conferences, regardless of AAU status.
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DaKCMan AP 08:54 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
I'm confident that KU will. I'm not so sure about KSU, though. If I'm the KSU brass, priority 1 is getting academics to a level that could lead to AAU membership. Without that, B1G isn't an option.

If Texas, OU, OSU, and Tech go to the PAC, the B1G could take ND, KU, Rutgers, and (fourth school). The SEC could add WVU and FSU, UNC, UVA, or Va Tech.

At that point, if KSU isn't the last team in the B1G, they are fucked. They aren't going to the ACC by themselves.
The SEC wouldn't add FSU. They would kill to have UNC but it's unlikely. Va Tech would be great too, but they may be tied to UVA.
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Saulbadguy 08:55 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
KSU will be fine. Suffice it to say, they want the B12-2-1(-1?) to stay together for all the obvious reasons. If it doesn't, we'll have a landing in one of the Super Conferences, regardless of AAU status.
Worlds of Fun, bro. W-O-F.
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Bambi 08:56 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
He's a KU fan. He's also a moderator, so by all means, keep annoying him.
huh?

He called me a name. I just said I didn't know who he was?

I guess I could call him a name back but I don't know him.

no biggie
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Saulbadguy 08:57 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Mizzou can dream of one day celebrating like this..
They haven't won a conference title in 40 years. I suppose "dream" is the operative word here.
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Saulbadguy 08:57 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
huh?

He called me a name. I just said I didn't know who he was?

I guess I could call him a name back but I don't know him.

no biggie
Call him a fuck ass.
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DaKCMan AP 09:00 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
They haven't won a conference title in 40 years. I suppose "dream" is the operative word here.
Again..

Mizzou can one day dream of celebrating like this..
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WilliamTheIrish 09:02 AM 10-05-2011
Are we going to get more sestuna type posters here? I'm against the SEC move based on that chance alone.

Thanks for listening.
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