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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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beer bacon 08:28 AM 10-05-2011
I thought the Dearmond interview was good, but I'm not a crying KU fan. If you all are so worried about the fate of KC, maybe you should move within the city limits, and help support her.
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Saulbadguy 08:31 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by beer bacon:
I thought the Dearmond interview was good, but I'm not a crying KU fan. If you all are so worried about the fate of KC, maybe you should move within the city limits, and help support her.
I'm not particularly worried about Kansas City. I think the basketball tournament will still be held there, because Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State fans will still travel well there.

Even if it's not, who gives a fuck? They could move it to Dallas where no one will go to it, or leave it in Kansas City, regardless of what Mizzou does.
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Reerun_KC 08:32 AM 10-05-2011
IF MU does leave... Then KU fans need to start rattling the cages of its Administrators as well...
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ChiTown 08:32 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
I'm not particularly worried about Kansas City. I think the basketball tournament will still be held there, because Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State fans will still travel well there.

Even if it's not, who gives a ****? They could move it to Dallas where no one will go to it, or leave it in Kansas City, regardless of what Mizzou does.
This
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Saulbadguy 08:36 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC:
IF MU does leave... Then KU fans need to start rattling the cages of its Administrators as well...
Why?

KU (and K-State) are in no position to demand anything, and they'd be stupid to explore other options at this juncture. If MU leaves, add 2 teams to get back to 10 and call it good (for now).

When a school that actually matters (Oklahoma, Texas) get wandering eyes, that is when we need to panic.
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Crush 08:37 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Mizzou would become annual Gator bait. :-)
Looking forward to it. If everyone falls into place, there is no doubt some exciting some football ahead. Playing in the SEC can only make Mizzou better in the long run. Plus, there is little to no animosity from the rest of the SEC if Mizzou's admittance doesn't fuck everything up.
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Saul Good 08:39 AM 10-05-2011
I don't know where KU would go right now. If the B1G goes to 16, KU could be in the catbird seat to join Nebraska as Proud (junior) members of the B1G.
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Saulbadguy 08:41 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
I don't know where KU would go right now. If the B1G goes to 16, KU could be in the catbird seat to join Nebraska as Proud (junior) members of the B1G.
I realize your trip to Worlds of Fun might dictate otherwise, but if super conferences happen, KU and K-State will both have a seat at the table somewhere.
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DaKCMan AP 08:41 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by Crush:
Looking forward to it. If everyone falls into place, there is no doubt some exciting some football ahead. Playing in the SEC can only make Mizzou better in the long run. Plus, there is little to no animosity from the rest of the SEC if Mizzou's admittance doesn't fuck everything up.
Of course the SEC is good for Mizzou and Mizzou is a good addition to the SEC. Plus, it will allow me to talk about SEC football much more (yes, even more than now) around here. :-)
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eazyb81 08:42 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
I don't know where KU would go right now. If the B1G goes to 16, KU could be in the catbird seat to join Nebraska as Proud (junior) members of the B1G.
They have a standing offer from the ACC according to Fescoe.
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Saulbadguy 08:42 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Of course the SEC is good for Mizzou and Mizzou is a good addition to the SEC. Plus, it will allow me to talk about SEC football much more (yes, even more than now) around here. :-)
Mizzou fans, is this what you really what?

Good lord.
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eazyb81 08:43 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Of course the SEC is good for Mizzou and Mizzou is a good addition to the SEC. Plus, it will allow me to talk about SEC football much more (yes, even more than now) around here. :-)
We may even need to start an Awesome SEC Only Thread to contain the awesomeness.
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DaKCMan AP 08:43 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
Mizzou fans, is this what you really what?

Good lord.

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DaKCMan AP 08:43 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
We may even need to start an Awesome SEC Only Thread to contain the awesomeness.
That would be Awesome squared.
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Crush 08:44 AM 10-05-2011
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Of course the SEC is good for Mizzou and Mizzou is a good addition to the SEC. Plus, it will allow me to talk about SEC football much more (yes, even more than now) around here. :-)
Indeed. Hopefully, Mizzou doesn't fuck it up.
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