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Dante84 09:24 PM 04-25-2024
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RunKC 11:38 AM Today
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
No, apparently it's impossible to find a good one so we should just keep doing what we're doing which is throwing brokedick veterans and day two picks at the position. Hopefully they lock Joe Thuney up as well so he can salvage the season when it almost inevitably fails again.
Well here’s the list of tackles drafted. Feel free to show us which one of these in the last handful of years is a good starting LT that actually fell to 20 or later bc from what I’m seeing it’s Darrisaw and that is literally it.

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/t
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DJ's left nut 11:43 AM Today
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Well here’s the list of tackles drafted. Feel free to show us which one of these in the last handful of years is a good starting LT that actually fell to 20 or later bc from what I’m seeing it’s Darrisaw and that is literally it.

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/t
Crow alluded to it somewhere in the draft forum when he made a distinction between Kingsley the prospect and Kingsley the 2025 player.

I think he was asked if Simmons was a better prospect than Kingsley (yes) but that doesn't mean he is a better PLAYER in 2025 than Kingsley, with a year under his belt, would be.

We can - we WILL - develop a homegrown LT. We're honestly not THAT far away from it with Morris. I do think he was largely passable until the knee got too bad to continue playing on. He might still have more room for growth.

Maybe it'll be Kingsley.

And hell, maybe it will be someone that we draft in the late 1st. But that guy is GOING to need to be coached up. A lot. If we're looking to get ourselves a home-grown LT, that's going to be a guy who gets a redshirt year if we take him in the 1st or 2nd or wherever.

I think, right now, there is NO harder position, quarterback included, to find a year 1 starter than OT. Especially LT. It's just a brutal, brutal position to find talent at. And for the most part you're going to have to be willing to play the long game.

That's a pretty tough sell for this team.
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Sassy Squatch 11:49 AM Today
Come on, man. Morris is done. He played in a glorified preseason game against the Broncos week 18. Really think he's doing that on a knee that he can't play on? He's gotten the Toney treatment.
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Bl00dyBizkitz 11:55 AM Today
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Come on, man. Morris is done. He played in a glorified preseason game against the Broncos week 18. Really think he's doing that on a knee that he can't play on? He's gotten the Toney treatment.
He hasn't proven he's completely useless, which Toney actually did. Toney was a liability any time he was on the field or the ball went his way. At least Wanya could be a Guard or RT in the future, or at the very least a backup like Allegretti.
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RunKC 11:56 AM Today
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Crow alluded to it somewhere in the draft forum when he made a distinction between Kingsley the prospect and Kingsley the 2025 player.

I think he was asked if Simmons was a better prospect than Kingsley (yes) but that doesn't mean he is a better PLAYER in 2025 than Kingsley, with a year under his belt, would be.

We can - we WILL - develop a homegrown LT. We're honestly not THAT far away from it with Morris. I do think he was largely passable until the knee got too bad to continue playing on. He might still have more room for growth.

Maybe it'll be Kingsley.

And hell, maybe it will be someone that we draft in the late 1st. But that guy is GOING to need to be coached up. A lot. If we're looking to get ourselves a home-grown LT, that's going to be a guy who gets a redshirt year if we take him in the 1st or 2nd or wherever.

I think, right now, there is NO harder position, quarterback included, to find a year 1 starter than OT. Especially LT. It's just a brutal, brutal position to find talent at. And for the most part you're going to have to be willing to play the long game.

That's a pretty tough sell for this team.
One of the best things Terez talked about was OL.

“Good luck getting a left tackle bc God don’t make many of us that big, and he don’t make many of us that big and athletic and he sure as hell don’t make hardly any of us that big, that athletic and that smart.”

God I miss Terez so so much.
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Sassy Squatch 11:57 AM Today
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
He hasn't proven he's completely useless, which Toney actually did. Toney was a liability any time he was on the field or the ball went his way. At least Wanya could be a Guard or RT in the future, or at the very least a backup like Allegretti.
Well, yeah. He's going play out his rookie contract as the swing tackle. Toney got cut because he couldn't shut the fuck up about it and had a horrendous attitude.
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BigCatDaddy 11:59 AM Today
Originally Posted by bigjosh:
How would you all feel about adding tee higgins in free agency?


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We have Rice and Worthy dirt cheap. I wouldn't waste money on a top tier guy. I'd invest elsewhere.
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RunKC 12:16 PM Today
Everyone is with Sassy on wanting a LT. If we could get high enough for one at a reasonable trade price we think is the guy I’d pull the trigger.

It’s hard though bc the next 2 years is gonna be a big transition period for us.

Bolton and Trey are FA’s this year. We’re losing one of them. Reid is probably gone, Kelce will retire soon and not taking another TE in this awesome TE class would be a sin IMO. Tranquill is getting older and slower, Thuney will need to be replaced soon, lot of age/washed players after Rashhe and Worthy at WR, we don’t have a good RB, Turk is probably gone, Omenihu is probably gone, Conner hasn’t been great.

That’s not even considering the best overall draft in franchise history are entering contract years next year so we have to plan there.

Cook, Pacheco, Watson, maybe Leo. We saw what our CB depth looked like this yr at without Watson. And man that guy is gonna get paid.

And I personally feel that S is a big problem next year with Reid gone and Hicks being the only guy I truly trust back there.

It’s a measure of risk tolerance. Vital draft capital for one player in a trade up or making sure the team overall is still talented with young players?
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