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Nzoner's Game Room>MNF Week 2 - Falcons @ Eagles
Easy 6 04:11 PM 09-16-2024
Hooo lawdy, this could become a Benny Hill level comedy romp in a hurry

Not sure what to think about Atlanta, they kinda look like a hot mess with some genuine talent sprinkled in, and a completely unproven OC thrust into the big chair

Did anyone else see the opening of Countdown? some big fat dude and Jason Kelce did a chest bump onstage and fatty limped off badly afterward :-)
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KC_Connection 11:11 AM 09-17-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Not if you're flipping a coin, no.

But the gamblers fallacy only applies in true random chance.

Getting your interior line stoved in 3 times in a row ain't 'random change' fella.

That's where you continue getting this wrong. Acting like it simple math and chance. It's not - these are actual plays that are needing to be made or not made.

3 times we didn't make them. You can sit here and pretend like it was mere happenstance if we got it a 4th time but that's just lunacy.
I will (and already have) granted you that it was less likely than the average (65%) that we would convert that given the series of plays that came before it.

The difference is that I accept that risk and would have been fine with the consequence of not getting it (the Bengals on their own 1 up three points in the first quarter is not a bad spot for the Chiefs to be). I may have been more risk averse if it was late in a playoff game in a tight game, but in that scenario? Let's go for it and let the chips fall where they may.
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DJ's left nut 08:11 AM Today
"WhY dOnT wE jUsT gO fOr It On 4tH dOwN!!!"

Oh look - another game where we got stonewalled inside the 3 yard line, another game where we took the points on 4th and ANOTHER game where the points ended up proving massive as Atlanta twice had to go for it on 4th down to score a TD instead of just kick the FG to take the lead...

But yeah - let's just keep pretending that the calculators will give us the right answer...
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Lzen 08:13 AM Today
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
"WhY dOnT wE jUsT gO fOr It On 4tH dOwN!!!"

Oh look - another game where we got stonewalled inside the 3 yard line, another game where we took the points on 4th and ANOTHER game where the points ended up proving massive as Atlanta twice had to go for it on 4th down to score a TD instead of just kick the FG to take the lead...

But yeah - let's just keep pretending that the calculators will give us the right answer...
Yep. I'll take the experience and feel for the game of Andy Reid over 'advanced metrics' any day.
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ThaVirus 08:21 AM Today
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
"WhY dOnT wE jUsT gO fOr It On 4tH dOwN!!!"

Oh look - another game where we got stonewalled inside the 3 yard line, another game where we took the points on 4th and ANOTHER game where the points ended up proving massive as Atlanta twice had to go for it on 4th down to score a TD instead of just kick the FG to take the lead...

But yeah - let's just keep pretending that the calculators will give us the right answer...
And on the flip side, the analytics told Atlanta to go for it on 4th and medium from the 7 yard line or whatever on their second-to-last drive.

In retrospect, had they kicked the field goal there they’re only down 22-20. Make a quick stop on us, like they did, they would have been driving for a game-winning field goal on the final drive.
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ThaVirus 08:22 AM Today
Our offense sucks lately but I’m glad we’ve put some ill shit on tape because the fact that we could pop off at any moment makes opposing teams do the dumbest shit.
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DJ's left nut 08:37 AM Today
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
And on the flip side, the analytics told Atlanta to go for it on 4th and medium from the 7 yard line or whatever on their second-to-last drive.

In retrospect, had they kicked the field goal there they’re only down 22-20. Make a quick stop on us, like they did, they would have been driving for a game-winning field goal on the final drive.
And nobody EVER acknowledges that when it doesn't work.

Broadcasters would've fawned over Morris for being aggressive and going for it all day had it worked.

Nobody - not one soul sans maybe Nick Wright - will say shit about Reid taking the points and them being critical in the end. And I very much doubt anyone will criticize Morris for not kicking it either.

From a PR standpoint, the only decision anymore is to just go for it. They'll love you if it works and ignore it when it fails. Meanwhile, when Reid goes against the grain 2 weeks in a row and wins the damn games because of it, nobody's going to say anything.
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notorious 08:50 AM Today
A lot of people are forgetting if we didn’t get it on 4th and goal that would have been two trips down with no points in a row.
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