Why did Franklin fall so far? It makes no sense, unless he is injured, or has some character concerns that teams found out about.
Fuck. Denver got Nix and Franklin. The Chargers got Alt, McConkey, and Brenden Rice. And the Raiders? Well, it appears that AP wants to put his own stamp on the team by taking the star TE, because he needs to prove that his star TE is better than the star TE the last guy drafted last year.
That is competent drafting by the Chargers and Broncos, and I don't like it. Thank goodness the Chargers team doctors will probably maim most of the players at some point next season. And the Broncos are still under the weight of that trade and contract for a failed Subway spokesperson. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
Why did Franklin fall so far? It makes no sense, unless he is injured, or has some character concerns that teams found out about.
****. Denver got Nix and Franklin. The Chargers got Alt, McConkey, and Brenden Rice. And the Raiders? Well, it appears that AP wants to put his own stamp on the team by taking the star TE, because he needs to prove that his star TE is better than the star TE the last guy drafted last year.
That is competent drafting by the Chargers and Broncos, and I don't like it. Thank goodness the Chargers team doctors will probably maim most of the players at some point next season. And the Broncos are still under the weight of that trade and contract for a failed Subway spokesperson.
I did not hate any of the drafts by our division foes tbh. I also really liked the Jaguars draft, so you're not alone here feeling that way.
Franklin is this year's Hyatt. Easily disrupted by physical corners and press coverage, one trick pony for route running, etc. I can't see it being off the field issues, even Jermaine Burton went before him and JB is a total douche according to literally everyone that's ever been around him. Maybe there was a lingering injury, but unless it's massive, I can't see it causing him to drop that far. Zak Zinter's leg exploded and he didn't drop that far. [Reply]
The Broncos draft was shit because they took Bo Nix 12th overall for a team that's nowhere close to winnning. Franklin was by far the best pick, but there has to be a reason he fell despite being a consensus top 50 guy.
As for the Chargers, they had a top 5 pick, so kind of hard to completely fuck that up. I'll say this, I'm just glad they didn't end up with something like Naber/Oduze and Newton, or Alt and A.D. Mitchell.
In the grand scheme of things, it could've been a lot worse, and despite having a top 5 pick, it's not any better than ours. [Reply]
The Broncos draft was shit because they took Bo Nix 12th overall for a team that's nowhere close to winnning. Franklin was by far the best pick, but there has to be a reason he fell despite being a consensus top 50 guy.
As for the Chargers, they had a top 5 pick, so kind of hard to completely **** that up. I'll say this, I'm just glad they didn't end up with something like Naber/Oduze and Newton, or Alt and A.D. Mitchell.
In the grand scheme of things, it could've been a lot worse, and despite having a top 5 pick, it's not any better than ours.
It’s not gonna be easy to get pressure on Herbert anymore now that they have Slater, Alt and Johnson.
McConkey makes sense considering he’s an intermediate weapon with long speed that will immediately line up in the slot while Palmer/Johnston line up outside. Don’t like that they got Cam Hart bc we all really liked him.
Raiders did well too IMO. Didn’t panic at QB like Denver. Took the blue chip TE and got 2 quality OL prospects.
Denver had the worst draft IMO. They reached badly on Nix and then took an another small project rusher and a slow bruising RB. Their best picks by far were Franklin and the MU corner [Reply]
Originally Posted by kozzman555:
I did not hate any of the drafts by our division foes tbh. I also really liked the Jaguars draft, so you're not alone here feeling that way.
Franklin is this year's Hyatt. Easily disrupted by physical corners and press coverage, one trick pony for route running, etc. I can't see it being off the field issues, even Jermaine Burton went before him and JB is a total douche according to literally everyone that's ever been around him. Maybe there was a lingering injury, but unless it's massive, I can't see it causing him to drop that far. Zak Zinter's leg exploded and he didn't drop that far.
We’re talking about Franklin from OR, right? Idk man, I saw a piece of a game last season and he was balling out. Made a pile of nice catches in tight spots, ‘several with guys on top of him. Maybe it was a fluke, idk. But in that one game he looked pretty good. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
Why did Franklin fall so far? It makes no sense, unless he is injured, or has some character concerns that teams found out about.
****. Denver got Nix and Franklin. The Chargers got Alt, McConkey, and Brenden Rice. And the Raiders? Well, it appears that AP wants to put his own stamp on the team by taking the star TE, because he needs to prove that his star TE is better than the star TE the last guy drafted last year.
That is competent drafting by the Chargers and Broncos, and I don't like it. Thank goodness the Chargers team doctors will probably maim most of the players at some point next season. And the Broncos are still under the weight of that trade and contract for a failed Subway spokesperson.
Did he actually "fall" or did he go about where teams valued him.
Most of the hype on him was from randos on Twitter and the analytic bros.
Daniel Jeremiah has him as prospect 76. By the time we got to the 2nd teams were just grabbing guys they liked or scheme fits. [Reply]
Hate to break it to you but the players now actually get on the field. You might want to slow your victory celebration.
If only you were as good at evaluating WRs as you are at creating a complete straw man. But alas, you’re not.
Not only did I not think Reagor was going to be better than Justin Jefferson, I had Jefferson as the top player in that draft other than Burrow. As soon as I watched the combine I posted that Jefferson “just made a pile of cash” and laughed at Reagor’s 20 yd shuttle because it was slower than Mahomes’ 3 years earlier.
Last year I had Zay Flowers #1 and Rice #2. I liked Puka, but I didn’t think he’d get ROTY. My dislike of Hyatt was also well-documented.
This year I have Nabers as not only the #1 WR, but as the best player in this draft. I like MHJr and Odunze, but Nabers will be better than all of them. My dislike of Troy Franklin was well-documented even before I saw him butcher the combine and plummet to the 4th. My dislike of Tez Walker has been well-documented since the Senior Bowl practices, long before he sank to the 4th. Me liking Worthy and Legette is also well-documented.
I’ll put my track record in terms of WR and CB - the 2 positions I played - evaluation up against anyone’s. Especially yours. :-)
The only WR issue I’ve been wrong about in recent history was buying into the Skyy Moore route videos last summer, but I did counterbalance that by saying before the season (and before he tweaked his knee) that i wasn’t counting on anything at all from KT and that any production we got from him “would be gravy”.
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks:
If only you were as good at evaluating WRs as you are at creating a complete straw man. But alas, you’re not.
Not only did I not think Reagor was going to be better than Justin Jefferson, I had Jefferson as the top player in that draft other than Burrow. As soon as I watched the combine I posted that Jefferson “just made a pile of cash” and laughed at Reagor’s 20 yd shuttle because it was slower than Mahomes’ 3 years earlier.
Last year I had Zay Flowers #1 and Rice #2. I liked Puka, but I didn’t think he’d get ROTY. My dislike of Hyatt was also well-documented.
This year I have Nabers as not only the #1 WR, but as the best player in this draft. I like MHJr and Odunze, but Nabers will be better than all of them. My dislike of Troy Franklin was well-documented even before I saw him butcher the combine and plummet to the 4th. My dislike of Tez Walker has been well-documented since the Senior Bowl practices, long before he sank to the 4th. Me liking Worthy and Legette is also well-documented.
I’ll put my track record in terms of WR and CB - the 2 positions I played - evaluation up against anyone’s. Especially yours. :-)
The only WR issue I’ve been wrong about in recent history was buying into the Skyy Moore route videos last summer, but I did counterbalance that by saying before the season (and before he tweaked his knee) that i wasn’t counting on anything at all from KT and that any production we got from him “would be gravy”.
Edit: Tez Walker, not Dez Walker
So were you wrong on Jefferson when Reagor went higher than him?!
Did the Chiefs do enough to improve at wide receiver?
The top six receivers on the Chiefs' depth chart are Marquise "Hollywood" Brown, Xavier Worthy, Rashee Rice, Kadarius Toney, Skyy Moore and Justin Watson. There's plenty of talent, but not much in terms of sure things. Brown is new, Worthy is a rookie, and Rice is battling legal issues, while Toney and Moore are coming off deeply disappointing seasons. It wouldn't be a bad idea for the Chiefs to bring in a veteran before camp for depth. -- Adam Teicher
Per Teicher's suggestion who's your preferred vet WR to add to our roster? [Reply]
