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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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|Zach| 08:21 PM 10-04-2011
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DaKCMan AP 08:22 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
So MU's division will be:

Missouri
Arkansas
LSU
Texas A&M
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Alabama

Correct?
Yep. Auburn would move to the East.
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Demonpenz 08:23 PM 10-04-2011
big east is playing don't wake daddy
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KChiefs1 08:26 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Yep. Auburn would move to the East.
Alabama vs Auburn would be the cross division rival?

Missouri vs Kentucky or Missouri vs Tennessee or Missouri vs Vanderbilt as MU's cross division rival?
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Dr. Gigglepants 08:27 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Alabama vs Auburn would be the cross division rival?

Missouri vs Kentucky or Missouri vs Tennessee or Missouri vs Vanderbilt as MU's cross division rival?
Please be Tenn, I could see that going to A&M though. UK or Vandy should be make for the easier match up though.
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NewChief 08:28 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Who said that? I know I'll enjoy it & MU better be looking to expand their stadium too.
No shit. Yeah, it's real boring being the featured game of the day and having ESPN broadcasting from your stadium lot and having your game anticipated all week at the national level. Who would be interested in that?
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KCrockaholic 08:28 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Alabama vs Auburn would be the cross division rival?

Missouri vs Kentucky or Missouri vs Tennessee or Missouri vs Vanderbilt as MU's cross division rival?
MU Vs Tennessee IMO
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ChiefsCountry 08:29 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Alabama vs Auburn would be the cross division rival?

Missouri vs Kentucky or Missouri vs Tennessee or Missouri vs Vanderbilt as MU's cross division rival?
Probably Tennessee. Ole Miss/Vanderbilt actually have a decent rivalry, maybe Kentucky if Mississippi St would rather play Georgia or Tennessee every year.
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Demonpenz 08:30 PM 10-04-2011
The media types in KC are always out of touch of what people think in this town. Everyone I know wants suck for 4 luck and they are looking forward to playing teams like Arkansas
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Mosbonian 08:32 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
The B1G could wind up being the biggest loser in all of this. If everything goes to 16, they have already lost Pitt, Syr, and Mizzou. Their pickings are getting pretty slim, so KU might wind up in a pretty good spot.
IMO it would serve them right for being so damn smug.......would make me laugh if all the schools they targeted and thought would be there for the pickings at THEIR convenience were snapped up and gone.

Now...the only other thing that would make it better would be for ND to join a conference other than the B1G.
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Reaper16 08:32 PM 10-04-2011
Mizzou to the East makes way more sense for the SEC.
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DaKCMan AP 08:34 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Alabama vs Auburn would be the cross division rival?

Missouri vs Kentucky or Missouri vs Tennessee or Missouri vs Vanderbilt as MU's cross division rival?
Originally Posted by KCrockaholic:
MU Vs Tennessee IMO
Bama's current cross-rival is Tennesee. There has been some talk that the league would preserve both the Bama-Tennessee and Bama-Auburn rivalry by moving to a 2 cross-division rivalry system and a 9-game league schedule.

The current cross-division rivalries are:
Florida-LSU
Tennessee-Alabama
South Carolina-Arkansas
Georgia-Auburn
Kentucky-Miss. St.
Vandy-Ole Miss.
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Crush 08:34 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by Mosbonian:
IMO it would serve them right for being so damn smug.......would make me laugh if all the schools they targeted and thought would be there for the pickings at THEIR convenience were snapped up and gone.

Now...the only other thing that would make it better would be for ND to join a conference other than the B1G.
Notre Dame has already stated that it would join the ACC if it was forced to join a conference.
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Dr. Gigglepants 08:37 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by Reaper16:
Mizzou to the East makes way more sense for the SEC.
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Bama's current cross-rival is Tennesee. There has been some talk that the league would preserve both the Bama-Tennessee and Bama-Auburn rivalry by moving to a 2 cross-division rivalry system and a 9-game league schedule.

The current cross-division rivalries are:
Florida-LSU
Tennessee-Alabama
South Carolina-Arkansas
Georgia-Auburn
Kentucky-Miss. St.
Vandy-Ole Miss.
So the easy thing would be to put Mizzou in the East and make the rivalry MU vs. A&M.
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KChiefs1 08:37 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Bama's current cross-rival is Tennesee. There has been some talk that the league would preserve both the Bama-Tennessee and Bama-Auburn rivalry by moving to a 2 cross-division rivalry system and a 9-game league schedule.

The current cross-division rivalries are:
Florida-LSU
Tennessee-Alabama
South Carolina-Arkansas
Georgia-Auburn
Kentucky-Miss. St.
Vandy-Ole Miss.
Then Mizzou vs Kentucky would make sense then.
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