Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Your list is right, but IMO, anyone could put up yards behind that OL. He belongs, but a guy like Roaf is probably the better pick. Maybe even Kinneson with the absolute ****fests we had at WR during the time.
Roaf wasn't a FA we traded for him before the 2002 Season.
Kennison quit on Denver mid season didnt he? Then we picked him up and went off for a coupe years.
Oh yea looked it up, hilarious.
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Denver Broncos
On April 5, 2001, Kennison signed a two-year, $1.8 million deal with the Denver Broncos that included a $500,000 signing bonus. Kennison was on the depth chart behind starters Rod Smith and Ed McCaffrey, but an early-season injury to McCaffrey meant that Kennison was thrust into a starting role. After eight unproductive games, Kennison requested to be released from the team the night before a game in which he was scheduled to start. He stated at the time he had "lost his love for the game". Kennison's decision was reportedly due to his wife's complicated pregnancy and his father's heart attack.[3] As a result, Kennison retired at the age of 28 and was released on November 15, 2001. The loss of Kennison, along with injuries to other Broncos receivers, decimated a once dominant Broncos corps of wide receivers.
Kansas City Chiefs Kennison unexpectedly resurfaced less than a month later, signing with the Broncos' arch-rival Kansas City Chiefs on December 3, 2001, to the outrage of Broncos coach Mike Shanahan.[4] Kennison's new contract was for two-years and $4.5 million with $3.2 guaranteed. Kennison would lead the Chiefs in receiving his first game as a starter.
On January 3, 2003, Kennison signed a six-year $9 million contract extension with the Chiefs. As a member of the Chiefs, from 2002 to 2006 Kennison averaged 59 receptions, 961 yards, and 5 touchdown catches during this span.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Let’s just have the conversation fellas. DJ is probably coming back next year on a prove it deal and I’m fine with that.
Glancing at the landscape of the NFL, you’ve got limited options.
Ronnie Stanley-assuming the Ravens don’t try to keep that broke dick
Cam Robinson
Tyron Smith
Kelvin Beachum
That’s your FA list.
Draft:
Will Campbell-top 10 projected pick
Kelvin Banks-top 15 projected pick
Cameron Williams-played RT. Probably not a LT
Maybe 2 of Wyatt Milllum, Josh Conerly and Josh Simmons are your most realistic options. I fully expect Conerly to light up the combine and move into the teens. Maybe Millim too.
Simmons tore his ACL in October. Looked fucking great at LT for OSU. He might be our best shot since he can’t participate in the combine or a pro day. And even then he might be redshirted.
And of course your in-house option of Kingsley. Man it’s fucking rough finding a LT unless your team sucks enough to get a high draft pick.
Did the Rams extend Joe Noteboom? Because he was a free agent as of 2 days ago.
I'd prefer him to Robinson and any other FA T and think he would be a sneaky good signing. [Reply]
I don't recall where I read it, but some folks are really high on Simmons as guy who could provide production far beyond his draft status fairly quickly.
I just think the championship window for this version of the Chiefs is starting to close. In fact, if Kelce retires, that's kinda the end of it. You're fully in the "3rd stage Patrick Mahomes Era" at that point.
But if you have another year or two with Kelce in some capacity and Jones still at/near his dominant self, I really struggle with the idea of a 'redshirt' OT in the first round. I still think you need to focus on using assets that can/should contribute in the short term in the first round.
And I just don't see the board falling that way for us at OT. Which is why I keep coming back to the idea of signing a decent but not spectacular veteran at OT and using a 1st rounder on someone that can help the rush or provide PM another weapon.
Hell, I'm not opposed at all to snagging another CB in the first round as I think this season has shown how thin we are there and CBs are getting awfully expensive in their own right in FA (and have far less predictable outcomes than veteran OTs).
I think you can mostly know what you'll get from an OT that you snag in FA. I don't think that's the case for CBs. So I'd be more likely to use draft capital on a developmental CB and cap space on an OT than vice versa. [Reply]
Originally Posted by bsp4444:
Maybe followed by James Hasty?
Yeah, Hasty is another good one who I just always overlook, probably because I was in my early teens at the time.
But to my memory, he only had 2-3 really impactful years here. Now my memory is flat-ass wrong, but that's why I don't typically think of him along those same lines.
I think the issue is that he came in at the end of the Marty years and took those defenses up a notch. But when Marty left and we had Gunther in there...well it just didn't matter much.
Arguably his best season for us - 1999 - is one that NOBODY remembers because frankly, why should they? We went 9-7, missed the playoffs, didn't have a 900 yard receiver or a 700 yard rusher (Donnell Bennett was our RB1, FFS). DT only had 7 sacks, Marvcus friggen Patton was our #2 pass rusher.
So that season's just wiped from my memory altogether. And the two seasons sandwiched around it were arguably even more forgettable; 7-9 both seasons.
So really the only thing I remember from Hasty is the 1995-1997 seasons and it's just difficult to really consider him in that same 'pantheon' because of it, unfair as that may be. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Good thread. Makes a lot of sense
Thuney is quicker into his set, and stays attached through the rep. Even on the last snap, he stays connected as he goes to the ground, giving one last shove away from 15
Here are 2 not pretty examples of that. Thuney is getting blown back into the pocket, but stays between Mahomes and the rusher pic.twitter.com/ijhfXvSY1Z
Glad someone did this. I'm sure it's not the full story, but yeah, it'll be Thuney, and it should be.
The Pro Bowl Humphries of 2 or 3 years ago, play him. The guy coming back from injury this year, nope. Would love to have seen more of him and to see if he could work his way back to form, but nevermind. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I don't recall where I read it, but some folks are really high on Simmons as guy who could provide production far beyond his draft status fairly quickly.
I just think the championship window for this version of the Chiefs is starting to close. In fact, if Kelce retires, that's kinda the end of it. You're fully in the "3rd stage Patrick Mahomes Era" at that point.
But if you have another year or two with Kelce in some capacity and Jones still at/near his dominant self, I really struggle with the idea of a 'redshirt' OT in the first round. I still think you need to focus on using assets that can/should contribute in the short term in the first round.
And I just don't see the board falling that way for us at OT. Which is why I keep coming back to the idea of signing a decent but not spectacular veteran at OT and using a 1st rounder on someone that can help the rush or provide PM another weapon.
Hell, I'm not opposed at all to snagging another CB in the first round as I think this season has shown how thin we are there and CBs are getting awfully expensive in their own right in FA (and have far less predictable outcomes than veteran OTs).
I think you can mostly know what you'll get from an OT that you snag in FA. I don't think that's the case for CBs. So I'd be more likely to use draft capital on a developmental CB and cap space on an OT than vice versa.
Yeah, I think we go 1 or 2 more years before another mini-reset. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Roaf wasn't a FA we traded for him before the 2002 Season.
Kennison quit on Denver mid season didnt he? Then we picked him up and went off for a coupe years.
Oh yea looked it up, hilarious.
I was at a very snowy Arrowhead Kennison's first game against the donks just a couple of weeks later. I'm having to look up the game stats because I don't remember much other than sitting in the East EZ, a Chiefs win and the snow - but EK had 3 receptions for 62 yards, with 42 of those yards coming on one reception. Chiefs won 26-23 in OT.
It was a free ticket too, I was actually a guest of a Denver fan and his son - it was like the ultimate perfect day. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Did the Rams extend Joe Noteboom? Because he was a free agent as of 2 days ago.
I'd prefer him to Robinson and any other FA T and think he would be a sneaky good signing.
Was it kccrow who mentioned Alaric Jackson. I hadn't paid much attention to him but he seems to have had a pretty solid season. Younger so may want multiple years, but far less sustained success. May be too much of a gamble but he might be a name to throw in. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Yeah, I think we go 1 or 2 more years before another mini-reset.
And the 're-set' year might suck a bit.
It would be a good year to pump some money into PMs pocket to 'thank' him for being a good soldier over the previous years when we needed cap space.
It might be a good year to clean up some cap, though we really don't have any bloat to speak of. Probably Taylor. But it could help you clear the decks for some big money years for guys like McDuffie, Rice, Worthy, maybe Karlaftis.
2026 or 2027 may just be a bit of a lost year for us. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
And the 're-set' year might suck a bit.
It would be a good year to pump some money into PMs pocket to 'thank' him for being a good soldier over the previous years when we needed cap space.
It might be a good year to clean up some cap, though we really don't have any bloat to speak of. Probably Taylor. But it could help you clear the decks for some big money years for guys like McDuffie, Rice, Worthy, maybe Karlaftis.
2026 or 2027 may just be a bit of a lost year for us.
If we win it this year and PM has 4 SB's by age 30 I am fine with a year of cap cleanup and loading up on younger players.
Just load up the offense so we can be entertained and PM can win a playoff game or 2. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JPH83:
Glad someone did this. I'm sure it's not the full story, but yeah, it'll be Thuney, and it should be.
The Pro Bowl Humphries of 2 or 3 years ago, play him. The guy coming back from injury this year, nope. Would love to have seen more of him and to see if he could work his way back to form, but nevermind.
Originally Posted by JPH83:
Glad someone did this. I'm sure it's not the full story, but yeah, it'll be Thuney, and it should be.
The Pro Bowl Humphries of 2 or 3 years ago, play him. The guy coming back from injury this year, nope. Would love to have seen more of him and to see if he could work his way back to form, but nevermind.
And its reps like that by Humphries that we can't afford in the playoffs. Like total whiffs like that are crazy to think about going into the postseason. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TheGuardian:
And its reps like that by Humphries that we can't afford in the playoffs. Like total whiffs like that are crazy to think about going into the postseason.