Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
This is what the Pro Caliendo camp fails to understand. If DJ wasn't the best option they wouldn't even think about fucking with this when they could be spending time crunching film for playoff teams.
Yep. The fact that they're even considering it says it all. [Reply]
What an interesting, long and complicated set of arguments that concludes the obvious: if Humphrey can play well enough, then the Chiefs will use him at LT and keep Thuney where he naturally belongs at LG . If they think Humphrey won’t play well enough, they will go with Thuney at LT and Caliendo at LG. Our games with Thuney at LT showed we are better using that approach if our alternative is to have a turn still at LT. I think in the Denver game Humphrey showed he can probably meet that standard. But there seem to be some doubts if you can do it long time on a lengthy drive or for the full game. Hard to understand why that is an issue as we had the ball for under 20 minutes in the Denver debacle. If that turns out to be the case, they may switch back-and-forth using Thuney or Humphrey depending how tired Humphrey is.
I don’t think it will matter against either Houston or Pittsburgh. And from that game, we will have a clearer idea of our best option for Buffalo or Baltimore – or even Denver if a miracle occurs and we play them again. [Reply]
Originally Posted by gordonelloyd:
What an interesting, long and complicated set of arguments that concludes the obvious: if Humphrey can play well enough, then the Chiefs will use him at LT and keep Thuney where he naturally belongs at LG . If they think Humphrey won’t play well enough, they will go with Thuney at LT and Caliendo at LG. Our games with Thuney at LT showed we are better using that approach if our alternative is to have a turn still at LT. I think in the Denver game Humphrey showed he can probably meet that standard. But there seem to be some doubts if you can do it long time on a lengthy drive or for the full game. Hard to understand why that is an issue as we had the ball for under 20 minutes in the Denver debacle. If that turns out to be the case, they may switch back-and-forth using Thuney or Humphrey depending how tired Humphrey is.
I don’t think it will matter against either Houston or Pittsburgh. And from that game, we will have a clearer idea of our best option for Buffalo or Baltimore – or even Denver if a miracle occurs and we play them again.
I think the sticking point for a lot of people (myself included) is whether people think Humphries will be ready or not, and what constitutes that. Basically, the pro Humphries camp thinks the Denver game and two weeks of prep time is enough for him to be ready, and the pro-Thuney camp thinks that's not enough time to be game ready and he might come out gassed.
I lean more on the pro-Thuney side because I'm more risk averse. I also believe the "we can switch Humphries out if he's not playing well" philosophy is a lot more risky than others seem to believe, but that's all just me.
It really has nothing to do with Caliendo, I think we all understand the ceiling is higher with Humphries and want Thuney back at G, it's just whether or not you think it's worth the risk. [Reply]
Nate Taylor said yesterday that he "doesn't think that you can play DJ Humphries". That was his opinion and I don't agree with it at all. I think Humphries at LT and Thuney at LG makes it a much better OL. [Reply]
Let’s just have the conversation fellas. DJ is probably coming back next year on a prove it deal and I’m fine with that.
Glancing at the landscape of the NFL, you’ve got limited options.
Ronnie Stanley-assuming the Ravens don’t try to keep that broke dick
Cam Robinson
Tyron Smith
Kelvin Beachum
That’s your FA list.
Draft:
Will Campbell-top 10 projected pick
Kelvin Banks-top 15 projected pick
Cameron Williams-played RT. Probably not a LT
Maybe 2 of Wyatt Milllum, Josh Conerly and Josh Simmons are your most realistic options. I fully expect Conerly to light up the combine and move into the teens. Maybe Millim too.
Simmons tore his ACL in October. Looked fucking great at LT for OSU. He might be our best shot since he can’t participate in the combine or a pro day. And even then he might be redshirted.
And of course your in-house option of Kingsley. Man it’s fucking rough finding a LT unless your team sucks enough to get a high draft pick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Schwartz is up there as well. Obviously Priest.
I mean the answer is probably Len Dawson. He was traded by Pittsburgh to Cleveland before Cleveland cut him and the Chiefs (Texans) signed him.
But in the modern era, your top three are probably Thuney, Schwartz and Priest in some order.
Your list is right, but IMO, anyone could put up yards behind that OL. He belongs, but a guy like Roaf is probably the better pick. Maybe even Kinneson with the absolute fuckfests we had at WR during the time. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Nate Taylor said yesterday that he "doesn't think that you can play DJ Humphries". That was his opinion and I don't agree with it at all. I think Humphries at LT and Thuney at LG makes it a much better OL.
Seth Keysor said the exact opposite. He looked at the tape and concluded DJ was probably their first option.
If DJ doesn't start, it will be a physical question not talent concerns. [Reply]
Originally Posted by New World Order:
Wish we had one more throwaway game to observe
We really did screw the pooch a bit by rushing him initially, should have let him get into better football shape. It's a huge question mark if you throw him in there now regardless of how anyone is trying to spin it.
I still say do it for the divisional and keep a very short leash on him. If he doesn't look like he can hold up, get him out. We can survive against a team like the Texans and Chargers while adjusting on the fly, but we damn sure need to know exactly where we're at for the AFC title game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
I think the sticking point for a lot of people (myself included) is whether people think Humphries will be ready or not, and what constitutes that. Basically, the pro Humphries camp thinks the Denver game and two weeks of prep time is enough for him to be ready, and the pro-Thuney camp thinks that's not enough time to be game ready and he might come out gassed.
I lean more on the pro-Thuney side because I'm more risk averse. I also believe the "we can switch Humphries out if he's not playing well" philosophy is a lot more risky than others seem to believe, but that's all just me.
It really has nothing to do with Caliendo, I think we all understand the ceiling is higher with Humphries and want Thuney back at G, it's just whether or not you think it's worth the risk.
More importantly, ANDY thinks DJ is the right call or he wouldn't be considering it.
You either trust the front office or you don't. That's the real argument here.
Andy obviously wants DJ to take the spot. Shouldn't that be enough? Or are people just that scared? [Reply]
:-) DJ is a mid season pump and dump, nothing more. The fact that this is even a conversation is why. We'll see how it works out to close out the 2024 season, but if you think Veach is going to go back to the short term broke dick veteran well AGAIN for 2025 I have a Timeshare in Belize I think you'd love to have a look at. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Nate Taylor said yesterday that he "doesn't think that you can play DJ Humphries". That was his opinion and I don't agree with it at all. I think Humphries at LT and Thuney at LG makes it a much better OL.
Nate Who? He's been gettin' sheet wrong since he's been at the Athletic. [Reply]
Thuney is quicker into his set, and stays attached through the rep. Even on the last snap, he stays connected as he goes to the ground, giving one last shove away from 15
Here are 2 not pretty examples of that. Thuney is getting blown back into the pocket, but stays between Mahomes and the rusher pic.twitter.com/ijhfXvSY1Z
