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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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KcMizzou 07:44 PM 10-04-2011
bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
If the #SEC really wants to have fun, add MU, KU and KSU, expand footprint b first to 16 and have KU v UK in hoops every yr. would b big
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Saul Good 07:44 PM 10-04-2011
Here's a quote from Jordan Webb, QB for the University of Kansas discussing the fan support at the Tech game.

"It's tough on us because we're beating a Big 12 opponent at halftime then we come out of the locker room and see everybody walk out, it's kind of like well thanks for the support. It's something we can't focus on," Webb said. "We have to try and play our game no matter what. It definitely hurts when you're playing well and there isn't much support."


I wonder if SEC QBs have that problem.
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HolyHandgernade 07:45 PM 10-04-2011
I think Mizzou is going to have a tough time with their Texas pipelines if they decide to go. They will get beat up UT people and they will encourage Texas coaches to steer their kids away from Mizzou. Texans are kinda vindictive about this sort of thing.
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DeezNutz 07:45 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
If the #SEC really wants to have fun, add MU, KU and KSU, expand footprint b first to 16 and have KU v UK in hoops every yr. would b big
Just because this rumor hasn't been floated before doesn't mean that it's not true.
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Saul Good 07:45 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade:
I agree, and I think my math is wrong anyway!
Yep. 12-2-2 = 8, not 9.
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mikeyis4dcats. 07:45 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Why wouldn't the tourney stay in KC? If it leaves, it's going to Texas. Just one more reason to GTFO when you can.
hey guise! let's play our tourney in a state we don't even have represented in our conference!
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dirk digler 07:45 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
If the #SEC really wants to have fun, add MU, KU and KSU, expand footprint b first to 16 and have KU v UK in hoops every yr. would b big
sounds like bobby is a little jealous

Anyway I am happy for MU if the move to the SEC happens and I hope we still play KU every year in football and basketball.
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HolyHandgernade 07:46 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
If the #SEC really wants to have fun, add MU, KU and KSU, expand footprint b first to 16 and have KU v UK in hoops every yr. would b big
Who is this guy?
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|Zach| 07:46 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
I'd have to see conclusive photographic proof. :-)
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Where's Zach?

Who do I invoice?
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Mr. Plow 07:46 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
If the #SEC really wants to have fun, add MU, KU and KSU, expand footprint b first to 16 and have KU v UK in hoops every yr. would b big

Grasping at straws
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KcMizzou 07:47 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade:
Who is this guy?
Obnoxious sports talk radio guy on 610 am in KC.
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HolyHandgernade 07:48 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.:
hey guise! let's play our tourney in a state we don't even have represented in our conference!
There's no way the Big XII will continue it in KC, it will probably move to OKC.
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tk13 07:49 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
If the #SEC really wants to have fun, add MU, KU and KSU, expand footprint b first to 16 and have KU v UK in hoops every yr. would b big
Yeah, good luck with that. To most SEC areas outside the Kentucky state line, basketball is that thing they do to fill the gap between football seasons.
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HolyHandgernade 07:50 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
Obnoxious sports talk radio guy on 610 am in KC.
Oh. Yeah, I can't see the SEC as interested in KU or KSU at all. Although, I did have one fantasy before the ACC expansion of seeing MU, KU, and UNC all together in the SEC. That would have been HUGE!
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SPchief 07:51 PM 10-04-2011
@bobfescoe
Bob Fescoe One more thing, why doesnt the big 12 give #mizzou a 24 hr deadline:crap or we push you off the pot. make them decided now. unfair 2 others
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