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RaidersOftheCellar 04:07 PM 09-04-2022
Update: Yes, the Bills were overhyped.
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JustDíqLix 06:14 PM 12-20-2022
Originally Posted by tredadda:
Curious who will have the longer career?
If I were to guess, I’d say Lamar and Murray have the shortest careers. I just don’t think they’re all that good.

Allen plays similar to Elway who played 15(?) years. Mahomes will play as long as he wants.
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JustDíqLix 06:17 PM 12-20-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Gonna be a lot tougher for them to beat us now

Which is wild considering he was averaging only about half of the snaps.
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IowaHawkeyeChief 07:21 PM 12-20-2022
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix:
If I were to guess, I’d say Lamar and Murray have the shortest careers. I just don’t think they’re all that good.

Allen plays similar to Elway who played 15(?) years. Mahomes will play as long as he wants.
Elway was nowhere near as bold running as Allen, Many remember the Superbowl Helicopter run, but that was the exception. That's once a game for Allen, makes him tough to stop, but it remains to be seen how long he can continue at this pace and frequency. Cam lasted about 6 years... What's weird, he doesn't need to do it for them to be good offensively...
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Rainbarrel 08:04 PM 12-20-2022
Needs more dueling banjos and less snowballing
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RaidersOftheCellar 08:26 AM 12-21-2022
Elway didn’t have a bunch of designed runs every game and he wasn’t constantly inviting contact.
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Hammock Parties 01:57 PM 12-23-2022

Something we are going to touch on when this week's podcast drops tomorrow over on Bootleg is how bad the Bills have been against Outside Zone.

30% of runs against them are OZ (5th most in NFL), and their AVERAGE depth of tackle is 5.4 yds (3rd worst per PFF).

Also...Ed Oliver. pic.twitter.com/otAb7SzkKd

— Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) December 20, 2022

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Chiefspants 02:01 PM 12-23-2022
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
Elway was nowhere near as bold running as Allen, Many remember the Superbowl Helicopter run, but that was the exception. That's once a game for Allen, makes him tough to stop, but it remains to be seen how long he can continue at this pace and frequency. Cam lasted about 6 years... What's weird, he doesn't need to do it for them to be good offensively...
As much as I hate Elway, but he was playing for a title in that entire game. Even on a rewatch the Packers were clearly the superior team, but that was the type of run you make at the end of the career to seal a title (because he certainly wasn't sealing it with his arm in that playoff run).
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tredadda 02:07 PM 12-23-2022
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix:
If I were to guess, I’d say Lamar and Murray have the shortest careers. I just don’t think they’re all that good.

Allen plays similar to Elway who played 15(?) years. Mahomes will play as long as he wants.
From a running perspective Allen will probably be the shortest just because he takes way too many big hits. Many times he initiates contact. That’s going to take its toll over time. Lamar especially takes very few big hits. His arm is nowhere near Allen’s though. He needs a special offense built to his talents and very few teams run that. It only takes one big hit to change everything and if it’s on a designed run, that will be even worse.
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RaidersOftheCellar 03:34 PM 12-23-2022
Allen's body can probably handle hits that Jackson and Murray can't. So I'd imagine he has a longer career. But it will take a toll eventually if he continues to run at this rate.
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Pasta Little Brioni 08:03 PM 12-23-2022
Bullshit. Look at Cam. Hits are hits no matter your size.
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Hammock Parties 08:08 PM 12-23-2022
i feel like the allen injury could be more devastating when it comes

a bum knee carrying 260 lbs ain't gonna be right
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JustDíqLix 07:04 PM 12-24-2022

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CasselGotPeedOn 07:09 PM 12-24-2022
:-) Nice troll
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Hammock Parties 07:09 PM 12-24-2022
that's fake news

patrick mahomes had more
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tredadda 07:14 PM 12-24-2022
Originally Posted by JustDiqLix:
Image if Mahomes played his first season. No worries though Mahomes is so far ahead of him in virtually every significant QB category (minus rushing) that he could sit a year and still be ahead of Allen. The way things are shaping up at the moment Mahomes is about to have a 2-0 lead on Allen in MVPs as well.
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