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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Dante84 07:19 PM 04-27-2017
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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Messier 01:00 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Which one is Brett Favre and which one is Jay Cutler?

Yards Per Game 233.6, 237.9
Yards Per Attempt 7.2, 7.1
Comp % 61.9, 62.0
TD% 4.6, 5.0
TD's Per Game 1.49, 1.68
INT% 3.3, 3.3
INT's Per Game 1.05, 1.11
QB Rating 85.7, 86.0
Yards Per Game 219.9
Yards Per Attempt 7.1
Comp % 56.9
TD% 4.1
TD's Per Game 1.28
INT% 3.1
INT's Per Game 0.96
QB Rating 79.9

Which one is John Elway?
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DaneMcCloud 01:01 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO:
You're gonna have to link me to where gruden said anything about it taking two years.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...152967534.html

Gruden mentioned that it might take Mahomes 3 or 3 and half years to be ready.

Whatever the case, Mahomes won't see the field in 2017 and IMO, it's unlikely that we see him before the 8th game of the 2018 season. He's a True Junior and is only 21 years old.

Gruden also mentioned that for the first time ever, Mahomes won't be splitting his Spring with baseball and football, which is a good thing for him. But the playbook is extensive and he has a long, long, long way to go before he's ready to effectively lead an NFL team.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 01:02 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by Messier:


Which one is John Elway.
The goofy looking one that can't draft worth a shit, and who is about to watch his team slide further and further in to the abyss.
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RunKC 01:40 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...152967534.html

Gruden mentioned that it might take Mahomes 3 or 3 and half years to be ready.

Whatever the case, Mahomes won't see the field in 2017 and IMO, it's unlikely that we see him before the 8th game of the 2018 season. He's a True Junior and is only 21 years old.

Gruden also mentioned that for the first time ever, Mahomes won't be splitting his Spring with baseball and football, which is a good thing for him. But the playbook is extensive and he has a long, long, long way to go before he's ready to effectively lead an NFL team.
Why 8 games in 2018? That's an interesting perspective.

What would those 8 weeks matter when he has 16 months to learn the playbook and an entire season to learn the game?
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RealSNR 01:45 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Why 8 games in 2018? That's an interesting perspective.

What would those 8 weeks matter when he has 16 months to learn the playbook and an entire season to learn the game?
Mahomes gets elevated to primary backup in 2018 and gets scout team work for 8 weeks?

I know that's not much, but I'm just throwing darts. I really don't know, either.
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pugsnotdrugs19 02:19 PM 05-27-2017
I'm willing to wait for Mahomes to play as long as Andy sees fit-- but I highly, highly doubt it is beyond the start of 2018. If it is, it either means Alex had a much better season than normal, or Pat's development is going slower than they'd hope.
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TigeRRUppeRRcut 02:25 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I'm willing to wait for Mahomes to play as long as Andy sees fit-- but I highly, highly doubt it is beyond the start of 2018. If it is, it either means Alex had a much better season than normal, or Pat's development is going slower than they'd hope.
No shit, Sherlock.

How's it feel hearing Gruden, the guy who thinks Mahomes is the best prospect in this draft, say that Mahomes is multiple years from starting?

That must have put things into perspective for you.

Why people argue with me on what are obvious things is beyond me.
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hometeam 02:28 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
No shit, Sherlock.

How's it feel hearing Gruden, the guy who thinks Mahomes is the best prospect in this draft, say that Mahomes is multiple years form starting?

That must have put things into perspective for you.

Why people argue with me on what are obvious things is beyond me.
Because for starters, you are a total dipshit, and have never been right about anything.

Does that help, or do you need details?
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TigeRRUppeRRcut 02:28 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
"There's more than just stepping back and throwing the football," Chiefs coach Andy Reid said. "That position we've grown into a pretty tough thing to pick up right away."

This is why I don't want to rush the kid.



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I wonder how many people are going to admit that TigerUppercut was right all along. You know, cause I've only been right for the last 3 years but people still can't seem to figure it out.
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TigeRRUppeRRcut 02:28 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by hometeam:
Because for starters, you are a total dipshit, and have never been right about anything.

Does that help, or do you need details?
You're irrelevant. This will be the last time I talk to a peasant like you. Move along.
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TigeRRUppeRRcut 02:33 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Which one is Brett Favre and which one is Jay Cutler?

Yards Per Game 233.6, 237.9
Yards Per Attempt 7.2, 7.1
Comp % 61.9, 62.0
TD% 4.6, 5.0
TD's Per Game 1.49, 1.68
INT% 3.3, 3.3
INT's Per Game 1.05, 1.11
QB Rating 85.7, 86.0

:-)
Favre is so overrated. Nowhere near the talent or consistency of cool joe, Young, Brady, Manning, Brees
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RealSNR 02:34 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
:-)
Favre is so overrated. Nowhere near the talent or consistency of cool joe, Young, Brady, Manning, Brees
Cool Joe? Joe Kapp? Joe Flacco?

Surely you're not talking about Joe Namath, a bottom 5 QB to ever win a Super Bowl?
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pugsnotdrugs19 02:36 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
No shit, Sherlock.

How's it feel hearing Gruden, the guy who thinks Mahomes is the best prospect in this draft, say that Mahomes is multiple years from starting?

That must have put things into perspective for you.

Why people argue with me on what are obvious things is beyond me.
There was no realization for me about anything, dumbass. F**k you.

Gruden also said in the interview it could be a year. He also said on draft night that it WOULD be a year.

The two things that I said would need to happen for Mahomes to not be the starter in 2018 (Alex being really good or Mahomes' development being slow), are REALLY UNLIKELY. Especially the one that involves Alex Smith being better than his average ass self.
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Halfcan 03:00 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
I wonder how many people are going to admit that TigerUppercut was right all along. You know, cause I've only been right for the last 3 years but people still can't seem to figure it out.
How can you be right about an event that has not happened yet?

So far everything, including Gruden's projections and timetables- are just opinions. Too many variables for you to be up on your soapbox patting yourself on the back.

If two years crawl by and Alex is still here while 2 PM is riding the pine- please start a thread and proclaim yourself the Greatest Football Prognosticator of All Time. I will post this :-) for you!!
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RunKC 03:03 PM 05-27-2017
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
I wonder how many people are going to admit that TigerUppercut was right all along. You know, cause I've only been right for the last 3 years but people still can't seem to figure it out.
Right? Like when you said Dorsey would be stupid to draft a QB in the first rd this year?
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