Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
After watching the game for a third time, I think I’m going to push back against the narrative Mahomes didn’t play well in the first half. He played well.
They had four possessions. He drove them for scores on the second two and was driving on the fourth when Arik Armstead made a great individual play on the end around to Hardman and blew up the drive (a chiefs also called a Super conservative screen that went nowhere on third and 14).
He had a disastrous third quarter, no doubt. But the narrative he didn’t play well until the end doesn’t quite match reality. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
After watching the game for a third time, I think I’m going to push back against the narrative Mahomes didn’t play well in the first half. He played well.
They had four possessions. He drove them for scores on the second two and was driving on the fourth when Arik Armstead made a great individual play on the end around to Hardman and blew up the drive (a chiefs also called a Super conservative screen that went nowhere on third and 14).
He had a disastrous third quarter, no doubt. But the narrative he didn’t play well until the end doesn’t quite match reality.
So true. People who said he played terrible 3 Quarters are just dumb. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
After watching the game for a third time, I think I’m going to push back against the narrative Mahomes didn’t play well in the first half. He played well.
They had four possessions. He drove them for scores on the second two and was driving on the fourth when Arik Armstead made a great individual play on the end around to Hardman and blew up the drive (a chiefs also called a Super conservative screen that went nowhere on third and 14).
He had a disastrous third quarter, no doubt. But the narrative he didn’t play well until the end doesn’t quite match reality.
He didn't light the world on fire, but he was solid in that first half. Made some big plays, including with his legs. Scored 10 points on a great defense. 3rd quarter into early 4th quarter was horrible. Last 8 minutes was very clutch. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
After watching the game for a third time, I think I’m going to push back against the narrative Mahomes didn’t play well in the first half. He played well.
They had four possessions. He drove them for scores on the second two and was driving on the fourth when Arik Armstead made a great individual play on the end around to Hardman and blew up the drive (a chiefs also called a Super conservative screen that went nowhere on third and 14).
He had a disastrous third quarter, no doubt. But the narrative he didn’t play well until the end doesn’t quite match reality.
That missed TD to Williams could have changed the entire pace of the game.
Obviously you can do that with any play.....but I think if we score there....that Shanahan has to do something to answer. And it’s been proven that when our offense scores....it gives confidence to the defense. [Reply]
All my life I've heard about this "clutch" gene bullshit and how all that matters is how you perform in crunch time.
Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say that Mahomes pretty much did that with flying colors. Now all these idiot talking heads like Mangini and company can talk about how he was so mediocre in the early parts.
So basically, they can all fuck right off and we can pretty much not give a shit about what they say anyway. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
All my life I've heard about this "clutch" gene bullshit and how all that matters is how you perform in crunch time.
Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say that Mahomes pretty much did that with flying colors. Now all these idiot talking heads like Mangini and company can talk about how he was so mediocre in the early parts.
So basically, they can all **** right off and we can pretty much not give a shit about what they say anyway.
Yep. Double standards being used. Tom Brady got a pass from the media for 2 bad INT’s in the AFC title game a year ago. One of those INT’s was literally in the KC end zone to cost his team 6-7 points. But he was clutch at the end against a terrible KC defense. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
That missed TD to Williams could have changed the entire pace of the game.
Obviously you can do that with any play.....but I think if we score there....that Shanahan has to do something to answer. And it’s been proven that when our offense scores....it gives confidence to the defense.
You mean on the wheel route where Williams didn’t see it?
I thought he got impeded just enough to throw off the timing. But yeah, a TD there probably changes things and puts more pressure on the 49ers in the 1st half.
That and the Armstead play on the end around that killed the last drive of the half were huge swings in the game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
All my life I've heard about this "clutch" gene bullshit and how all that matters is how you perform in crunch time.
Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say that Mahomes pretty much did that with flying colors. Now all these idiot talking heads like Mangini and company can talk about how he was so mediocre in the early parts.
So basically, they can all **** right off and we can pretty much not give a shit about what they say anyway.
I totally believe there is. There are clutch players who lack talent (Tebow), decent enough late game players who don't take enough risk (Alex Smith), and players who move at such a frantic pace late in games that it sets the team in a panic (rivers). Even Peyton manning... As good of a closer as he was played late games with his pants on fire.
The comparison I always make is Jordan and Lebron. I have tons of respect for Lebron and he's a decent enough closer. But he doesn't have the Jordan killer instinct. Where you will mow over your competition at all costs. I believe football introduces a whole other element of leadership because you can't win games by yourself. I commented years ago how impressed I was watching Tebow on mic'd up. The game was on fire and the guy is joking around and leisurely managing the huddle. We saw lamar a few weeks back sulking on the sideline. Mahomes threw two lousy picks and you never saw him pout. Apparently he was pumping tyreek up and telling him to take the game over. We've got a guy with talent, poise, and killer instinct. That's something really special. We've seen it all along but the world learned about this Sunday. [Reply]
I guess all the idiots hating on Mahomes because he didn't destroy one of the best defenses in the NFL for 4 straight quarters never heard the phrase...
"It is not how you start the race-it is how you end it."
49ers defense were playing great and making plays. But Mahomes figured them out like he always does and overcame the leaky pass protection for the win.
Some people just can't be happy with anything- pathetic. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
I guess all the idiots hating on Mahomes because he didn't destroy one of the best defenses in the NFL for 4 straight quarters never heard the phrase...
"It is not how you start the race-it is how you end it."
49ers defense were playing great and making plays. But Mahomes figured them out like he always does and overcame the leaky pass protection for the win.
Some people just can't be happy with anything- pathetic.
Most of them are the same trolls who praised Brady for having average games but coming through big in the clutch. Which I agree with them on. But that's hypocritical for them to suddenly change their tune with a different qb [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I totally believe there is. There are clutch players who lack talent (Tebow), decent enough late game players who don't take enough risk (Alex Smith), and players who move at such a frantic pace late in games that it sets the team in a panic (rivers). Even Peyton manning... As good of a closer as he was played late games with his pants on fire.
The comparison I always make is Jordan and Lebron. I have tons of respect for Lebron and he's a decent enough closer. But he doesn't have the Jordan killer instinct. Where you will mow over your competition at all costs. I believe football introduces a whole other element of leadership because you can't win games by yourself. I commented years ago how impressed I was watching Tebow on mic'd up. The game was on fire and the guy is joking around and leisurely managing the huddle. We saw lamar a few weeks back sulking on the sideline. Mahomes threw two lousy picks and you never saw him pout. Apparently he was pumping tyreek up and telling him to take the game over. We've got a guy with talent, poise, and killer instinct. That's something really special. We've seen it all along but the world learned about this Sunday.
Tim Tebow had to win a certain way. Mahomes doesn't. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
When you have the best 20 yard shuttle and 3-cone drills of NFL QBs you can do this. People vastly underrated his athleticism and agility.
I was repeatedly told here that Russel Wilson is way more elusive than Mahones even though he gets sacked at about 3x the rate Pat does. :-) [Reply]
