Where was that intermediate and deep game all year when Thuney was at guard? They weren't getting it with other LTs.

It is a fact that the offense looked the best it had all year when he was moved outside. You want to credit it to a massive change in play calling? Fine, it's never black and white and is always a combination of many factors, but I'll take the offense the last few weeks over the mid-season offense.

I wish DJ was in shape and could play at an average level for an entire game. Unfortunately, he hasn't shown the ability to do it.
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This is some of the absolute best football talk on the internet right now. Threads like this convince me of the left and right brain dominance. Some of us just see the game different and process cause and effect differently. Not to mention risk evaluation. I love all of it. Just kind of scared that I'm on the side with Uchieffy, but Staylor, Crow, Htis and several guys who are regularly right are on this island so cheers.
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People trust their eyes on a live watch WAY too much, and then just fucking dig in and won't listen to anything that contradicts their initial impression. People who know ball accept new information and are willing to change their minds.

I'm on an active group text with some KC friends, that includes an all-state high school running back (whose son is an excellent HS QB and future starter at a strong 6A school) , and a former All Big 12 middle linebacker who had a cup of coffee in the NFL. They both reacted to Humphries giving up that quick win sack on Sunday like going back to Thuney was a given.

And then we looked at the clip again after the game was over, and they both said (a) That's not all on Humphries (b) he didn't have a good rep, but clearly expected an outside shoulder chip from Perine (c) either Perine was wrong, or Humphries was wrong (d) if Wentz is paying attention like Mahomes would be, he sees that coming, steps up just a touch, and dumps it to Perine (e) in summary, it wasn't nearly as disastrous as it looked like.

Same thing on the sack where the DE was lined up on the slot corners hip, and Suamataia didn't keep an eye on the across-face move by the rusher, and the DE got home.
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Just broke down the All 69 tape of Thuney's snaps at LT and he reminds me a bit of the drummer for Def Leppard meets Jim Abbott
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Minter getting a HC job in the NFC or AFC East would be ideal. Haven't seen any buzz for that, really, but Jets, Jaguars, or Saints would be sweet.

I could see him taking the Jags. There's some stuff to work with there.

I think you're right about Brown. The offense looks crisp when it has guys out there who can win quickly underneath, and Brown adds that back. I think that, combined with Thuney stabilizing LT, combined with adjusting the playcalls, is the real key for things looking like they're clicking into place against Houston and Pittsburgh.
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Hey, what has seven arms and sucks?
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The only time I really trust what I see live is when it's in person.

And even that has problems all its own. But at least the well isn't poisoned by what you're told or shown and you see the full picture.

The problem is that we give the broadcast WAY too much weight. The announcers set a narrative, the replays, etc... are chosen to reinforce that narrative. And then we get beat over the head with it until we think "Well Jim Nantz says it so it must be true..."

And you often don't even SEE what led to the real problem on the field. It may not have even been caught by the camera.

It's why I get so frustrated by some of responses when I say "Hey, maybe PM ain't playing great..."

I mean look at the Vikings/Lions game. The OL got trucked a lot (despite being really solid all year). The WRs were struggling to find space and had several key drops.

Had PM had a game like that, we'd have said "Man, he had a 45% pressure rate and his WRs dropped several key plays that would've led to points while his coaches went Full Madden and left points all over the field. What more could he have done out there?"

We'd hand-waive the misses and focus on the shitty circumstances.

When Darnold has a game like that everyone says "Man, Darnold was a real piece of shit..." They lock in on the misses and disregard the circumstances.

It's the old "When you don't like the facts, argue the law. When you don't like the law, argue the facts. When you don't like either, pound on the table..."

Sometimes its ALL of those things. But when the broadcast or our preconceived notions decide otherwise, we just won't listen to anything other than what we heard on TV or what we'd kinda already decided was true.
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Humphries ain't ready to go, 2 weeks before the game.

:-)

You're such a coward.
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They were attempting it with the other guys. They basically stopped when Thuney moved over.

Playing DJ or not will not dictate whether we run the offense of the last few weeks. It's almost 100% play calling and scheme. They're covering for him. You could start DJ and still call those plays.

But there are plays you can call with a competent LT that you cannot call with Thuney at LT.

People are so scared of the floor that they refuse to look at the ceiling

Stop being scared.
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It's rarely possible to clean real meaning from a live watch, especially for fans. When the game is live, the emotions are high and thinking analytically takes a back seat.

Always gotta watch the game again to get the analysis. And what I saw is the same as what a lot of the blue check mark guys saw.

All this BS about DJ getting manhandled and being so bad he will ruin the playoffs is ridiculous talk from people that fear change.
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Not the best thread for this but since the value of Hollywood was brought up, and we are seeing it play out in real games now, I think there's two truths Veach has to contend with entering 2025

1) You need to try to bring Hollywood back. We'll see what Rice's impending suspension looks like, but it's very obvious that a starting WR trio of Rice, Worthy, and Brown could be special. If Kelce is back, that's just icing on the cake to fill that other underneath role.

2) We do NOT want to enter the season depending solely on two rather small WRs to stay healthy for 20 games, one with an injury history already (HB). We've seen the impact that missing just one of those guys can have on production. So you need improved depth. What's the answer?

I like bringing D-Hop back. He has much tangible and intangible value as WR4 and WR3 until Rice returns. But how do you answer the depth behind the fast guys? Hardman hasn't been dependable enough to be the answer.
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Have you seen him play well yet?
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I like Rimigio a an option over Hardman next year.
I also hold out hope of them getting Tyquan Thorn ready as a 5th or 6th WR

Rice
Brown
Worthy
Hopkins
Remigio
Thornton
??? Watson???
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Waiting for someone to make a DJ humphries jersey bet
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I'm trying to figure out how Calliendo got beat THAT badly THAT quickly.
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