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Fish 09:43 PM 05-21-2012
This is a repository for all cool scientific discussion and fascination. Scientific facts, theories, and overall cool scientific stuff that you'd like to share with others. Stuff that makes you smile and wonder at the amazing shit going on around us, that most people don't notice.

Post pictures, vidoes, stories, or links. Ask questions. Share science.

Why should I care?:


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stumppy 01:11 PM 02-22-2017
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
Maybe they're even on their way now, their giant bone-crushing mandibles clacking together in excitement and their poisonsous scorpion tails flicking back and forth in anticipation.
.So you're saying it'll be like the mother in law stopping by unannounced
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ThaVirus 02:03 PM 02-22-2017
Originally Posted by Fish:
Sounds like the gravity effects in the system are pretty whacky. The planets are so close that they pull on each other constantly, making their orbits all wavy and weird. Planets will pull close to each other when they're close in orbit.

What are the ramifications of this here for possible life forms on the planets?
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Rain Man 02:09 PM 02-22-2017
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
What are the ramifications of this here for possible life forms on the planets?
Interesting question.

If we're talking about planets with water, it seems like there would be extreme tidal action that happens regularly but infrequently. So our aliens would either be amphibious or their civilization would constantly get wiped out and have to rebuild.
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DaFace 02:30 PM 02-22-2017
Crazy. I'd feel a lot better about humanity if we could just wander over to another nearby planet and make ourselves at home.
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Rain Man 02:40 PM 02-22-2017
I bet our aliens would have some pretty intense religions, too. You'd see planets appear in the sky and get bigger, and then your amphibious priests start praying and sacrificing alien chickens and then the planets get smaller again. When some amphibious form of Copernicus starts figuring out the complex orbits and predicting the movements, he gets killed by the amphibious priests who have acquired complete power.
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DaFace 02:44 PM 02-22-2017
Originally Posted by O.city:
It's actually sad for me to see these things. It's exciting but a buzzkill knowing I'll never get to actually see it or us go there.
Never say never. With regard to SEEING something, the James Webb telescope will hopefully at least allow us to get a much better feel for what these (and other) exoplanets are like. It's not out of the question that we could fairly definitively say that there's a planet out there that likely has life on it in the next 10-20 years.

As for getting there, that's a much bigger challenge. We're gonna have to find a new form of ultrafast propulsion for that. Doesn't seem likely that it's on the horizon, but we went from not having airplanes to standing on the moon in about 70 years, so you never know.
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DaFace 02:55 PM 02-22-2017
This is a bit in the weeds, but it's a nice in-depth explanation about why this is important (beyond just being cool):

http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/20...ut-exoplanets/

There's also an AMA going on with the scientists here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/commen...xperts_ask_us/
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O.city 03:34 PM 02-22-2017
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Never say never. With regard to SEEING something, the James Webb telescope will hopefully at least allow us to get a much better feel for what these (and other) exoplanets are like. It's not out of the question that we could fairly definitively say that there's a planet out there that likely has life on it in the next 10-20 years.

As for getting there, that's a much bigger challenge. We're gonna have to find a new form of ultrafast propulsion for that. Doesn't seem likely that it's on the horizon, but we went from not having airplanes to standing on the moon in about 70 years, so you never know.
The propulsion stuff hawking and Co are doing is interesting.

It's gonna have to be fusion of some type I think.
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ThaVirus 03:44 PM 02-22-2017
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
Interesting question.

If we're talking about planets with water, it seems like there would be extreme tidal action that happens regularly but infrequently. So our aliens would either be amphibious or their civilization would constantly get wiped out and have to rebuild.
That's what I was thinking.

Now I'm envisioning a completely aquatic advanced life form..
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Fish 03:51 PM 02-22-2017
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
What are the ramifications of this here for possible life forms on the planets?
They didn't talk a lot about it, and I can't find any further info yet.

They did touch a bit on the general challenges of harboring life in the system. Despite the abundance of planets in the G zone, most scientists are still doubtful of life as we know it being there. The fact that it's a Red Dwarf system presents problems in itself. They are smaller and fainter. Which makes the planets orbit much much closer. That tidally locks the planets, creating planets where half receives constant sunlight, and the other is in perpetual darkness. Being that much closer to the star also makes the planets more susceptible to solar flares and radiation. Red Dwarfs are usually very active when they're young. Lots of radiation. Computer simulations show that this type of system likely destroys the atmospheres of the planets, which bakes the light side and freezes the dark side of the planet.

But still.... Jeff Goldblum quotes and stuff....
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ShiftyEyedWaterboy 04:00 PM 02-22-2017
Potentially 8.8-40 billion habitable earth-like planets in the Milky Way alone.

-from NBCNews. Can't post the link but its a great article. Look it up guys.
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DaFace 04:03 PM 02-22-2017
Originally Posted by ShiftyEyedWaterboy:
Potentially 8.8-40 billion habitable earth-like planets in the Milky Way alone.

-from NBCNews. Can't post the link but its a great article. Look it up guys.
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/8-8-b...way-8C11529186
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ShiftyEyedWaterboy 04:10 PM 02-22-2017
^Thanks
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Fish 04:29 PM 02-22-2017
Here's the entire event today, in case you missed it:


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ShiftyEyedWaterboy 04:38 PM 02-22-2017
Awesome. Thanks for posting that. Unless I'm a dumbass I can't rep yet, or I would.
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