Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Bill Polian, the living illustration of old man yelling at clouds, said that he would take A.J. McCarron over any of the quarterbacks in the 2017 NFL Draft. Reminder: that includes Patrick Mahomes, DeShaun Watson (who has thrown 26 touchdown passes in 10 starts), and Mitch Trubisky. Meanwhile, McCarron couldn’t beat out Nathan Peterman (also a later round pick from the 2017 NFL Draft) who is one of the worst opening day starters of all-time. [Reply]
Bill Polian, the living illustration of old man yelling at clouds, said that he would take A.J. McCarron over any of the quarterbacks in the 2017 NFL Draft. Reminder: that includes Patrick Mahomes, DeShaun Watson (who has thrown 26 touchdown passes in 10 starts), and Mitch Trubisky. Meanwhile, McCarron couldn’t beat out Nathan Peterman (also a later round pick from the 2017 NFL Draft) who is one of the worst opening day starters of all-time.
Bill Polian is a HOF GM. He never "discovered" a QB.
Jim Kelly was already drafted by Buffalo and seasoned in the USFL when Polian took over. Polian did convince Kelly to finally join Buffalo (Did Kelly have a choice?).
He drafted Peyton Manning over Ryan Leaf with 1st overall pick. Good but most GMs would have. Manning had that pedigree.
And he drafted Kerry Collins with a top pick in Carolina.
I think Polians issue with QBs recently is that the ideas for scouting QBs 30 years ago don't work so well now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Bill Polian is a HOF GM. He never "discovered" a QB.
Jim Kelly was already drafted by Buffalo and seasoned in the USFL when Polian took over. Polian did convince Kelly to finally join Buffalo (Did Kelly have a choice?).
He drafted Peyton Manning over Ryan Leaf with 1st overall pick. Good but most GMs would have. Manning had that pedigree.
And he drafted Kerry Collins with a top pick in Carolina.
I think Polians issue with QBs recently is that the ideas for scouting QBs 30 years ago don't work so well now.
I think a lot of NFL evaluators have that issue. They have seen QBs inside this specific little box for years, and the game has changed. If you’re innovative enough, you can make a lot of different types of QBs work and develop a lot of guys. [Reply]
Bill Polian, the living illustration of old man yelling at clouds, said that he would take A.J. McCarron over any of the quarterbacks in the 2017 NFL Draft. Reminder: that includes Patrick Mahomes, DeShaun Watson (who has thrown 26 touchdown passes in 10 starts), and Mitch Trubisky. Meanwhile, McCarron couldn’t beat out Nathan Peterman (also a later round pick from the 2017 NFL Draft) who is one of the worst opening day starters of all-time.
Originally Posted by Frosty:
Bears fans on Reddit are trying to convince themselves that Mahomes wouldn't be as good if drafted by John Fox. They say it's the weapons Mahomes has (he's throwing to a wide open Hill and Kelce) and Andy Reid's system.
Whatever helps you sleep through the night, I guess. :-)
Yeah Bills fans were making the same argument. Suuuuurrreeeee. Nope your team f’ed up. End of story.
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Have we talked about how far we think the Chiefs go in 17 if they had been ballsy enough to switch to Mahomes after the Denver game?
I’m confident they at least beat the Titans.
I said, at the time, we’d have won going away if Smith got the concussion instead of Kelce. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Have we talked about how far we think the Chiefs go in 17 if they had been ballsy enough to switch to Mahomes after the Denver game?
I’m confident they at least beat the Titans.
I was on here after the Chiefs lost to Buffalo at Arrowhead telling everyone that Mahomes should start vs the Jets.
They’d have beaten the Jets & finished the season 5-0 with an 11-5 record & gotten the 3rd seed. They would have beaten Buffalo & also the Steelers but lost to the Patriots in the championship game.
I believe with that extra experience that Mahomes would have had a better start & the Chiefs would have won the Super Bowl last season. [Reply]
Bill Polian, the living illustration of old man yelling at clouds, said that he would take A.J. McCarron over any of the quarterbacks in the 2017 NFL Draft. Reminder: that includes Patrick Mahomes, DeShaun Watson (who has thrown 26 touchdown passes in 10 starts), and Mitch Trubisky. Meanwhile, McCarron couldn’t beat out Nathan Peterman (also a later round pick from the 2017 NFL Draft) who is one of the worst opening day starters of all-time.
Let’s not forget about the ultimate tool idiot who was 100% wrong on Mahomes— Cian Fahey [Reply]
Who would you rather start a Franchise with Mahomes or Jackson...
1st caller "Jackson, cuz Mahomes is just that guy that's getting older and he'll just be kinda around ya know. Mahomes Might take them to the playoffs but that's it."
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
Who would you rather start a Franchise with Mahomes or Jackson...
1st caller "Jackson, cuz Mahomes is just that guy that's getting older and he'll just be kinda around ya know. Mahomes Might take them to the playoffs but that's it."
